Author Topic: PC Build with Threadripper 3970x - help  (Read 5055 times)

2020-04-23, 08:32:07

shortcirkuit

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Hi guys

Im not that tech savvy when it comes to PC parts and some of you experts here are awesome!  I have researched as much as I can and have come up with the attached parts which i got quoted, before making a payment, i was wondering if you experts can look at this and let me know if Ive got the right parts selecteD?
I opted for a GTX 2060 as I believe that should be more than enough for the viewport of max - i currently have a gtx strix 1080 and it works great - im sure the 2060 is better right?

One other thing, is there a difference with windows home v pro for corona? 

Thanks in advance

2020-04-23, 13:01:39
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Recently ordered the parts for a threadripper build myself, I’m not an expert but followed the advoice of many in another thread here, highly recommended  search for threadripper builds, it has over 70 pages of good info!

Anyway the only thing I can confidently comment on is your cooling solution, go with Noctua NH U14S.

It behaves better than any other air or water cooler except for a custom water loop, and even then just by a small amount.

I believe the H100i has poor die coverage and won’t be as effective.

2020-04-23, 13:18:36
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Thanks for the feedback - yes ive read through the pages - but its a massive investment for me and I want to ensure i am getting the latest advise i guess.
So you saying hte noctua is better than a watercooled solution?  wow ok - to be honest, i used to have a noctua in my old machine and it was fantastic!  I just want to ensure this cpu is going to be as cool as possible (dont want it breaking on me)
I was also advised by someone who purchased a similar set up to ensure there is a 360mm radiator for the cpu (3 x 120mm fans) - does this make any sense to you?

Recently ordered the parts for a threadripper build myself, I’m not an expert but followed the advoice of many in another thread here, highly recommended  search for threadripper builds, it has over 70 pages of good info!

Anyway the only thing I can confidently comment on is your cooling solution, go with Noctua NH U14S.

It behaves better than any other air or water cooler except for a custom water loop, and even then just by a small amount.

I believe the H100i has poor die coverage and won’t be as effective.

2020-04-23, 13:54:06
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Yea it took me a while to realize that the noctua was in fact the better solution.


In this video they compare different coolers, the Kraken would behave similar to the h100i

You van see the noctua is better.

The enfermax is a water cooler that beats the noctua because it offers full coverage, but the quality control is so crappy I would never risk my computer with that brand.

It is not the size of the radiator but the processor coverage unfortunately :( custom loop is the only way to get it done

Noctua is a proven solution, cools more than enough

2020-04-23, 14:28:51
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Mybe it's too early to judge but 3970x + noctua is ok in my opinion (so far). I mind you, we've got pretty low temps outside and hot summer is just ahead of us. High room temperatures are gonna be nightmare during rendering i suppose. Hopefully noctua will  bring new cooler for third gen threadrippers some day.

As for GPU - as far as I'm concerned gtx strix 1080 has 8GB of vRAM right? if so I would keep it and save some money if i were you.

RAM - just 32 Gigs? 64 is absolute minimum IMHO.

TH

2020-04-24, 02:41:16
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thanks for the replies guys

yes its 8gig ram on the strix - it works well and youre right - its a good way to save..... i think ill do that...

so with hot temps outside and inside - what cooler would you suggest then?

2020-04-24, 12:13:06
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I finished my system 2 weeks ago so it's quite fresh, but I also use noctua. Custom loop is too expensive so NH U14S sp3 is pretty much the only option at this point.
My suggestion is: Take notes, ask moderator to delete this topic and move to threadripper builds section (better chance for quality advice).
Well ventilated case is super important, corsair you chose looks ok but I would ask twice.

2020-04-24, 14:01:11
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As Twoheads said, NH-U14s TR4 in all circumstances.

Quite simply because there are no other choices or alternatives to choose from. The only AIO is faulty crap, and the price of custom loop starts at 700+ Euros... which might as well invest into 3990X upgrade instead.

Definitely get 64-128GB of memory, the price right now is great, might or might not last.
Don't buy new GPU if you already have one, esp. one that is worse compared to your current.
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2020-04-24, 15:43:38
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Hi. Check out this test from Kitguru:

The test is made with the 3990 :)

2020-04-24, 17:34:13
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About a week ago I reached 100 C in aida64 stress test. Stopped it after 5 minutes with watering eyes :) and believe me it was much cooler outside (2am, 12 C). Luckily for us corona is not as brutal for cpu as aida (thank god). So my idea for next couple of months is:
-render at night when temps are lower
-invest in AC
-sell 3970x and buy 3990x  ;)

2020-04-26, 06:28:43
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Thanks for the replies so far....

@twoheads - so on the 3970 you reached 100C?  with the noctua? That doesnt sound ideal - is everyone else experiencing this or is there a better cooler solution?
Id love to buy the 3990x but at $7,500AUD i dont think i can afford it.

@juraj - cheers, yes def getting 128gig ram.  I will also hold onto my 1080 gfx card -

Ok will repost this on the threadripper and adjust my selections of course to get collective feedback

2020-04-28, 11:02:33
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As the video above from KitGuru shows, Noctua is actually the best cooler. I almost want to ban the cooling questions after this :- ).
This has been proved for past 3 years, and still somebody asks it every week again.

It's not even surpassed by the experimental one when normalized to same RPM (1500), where Noctua is still 5 times quitere (40 vs 45dB).
So if they tested further noise normalized, Noctua would completely win.

So the only thing to do is, run CPUs stock, have well ventilated case. And not worry, AIDA64 or Prime are not representative of rendering workload, they're at least 10C more demanding.
(But Corona should introduce some limit option for denoising...)

The only alternative is custom water loop, which is investment of 700+ Euro and yearly maintenance.
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2020-04-28, 15:12:52
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Thanks Juraj... all noted

I wrote in the other forum the post below... what are your thoughts?  Obviously ignoring the air.... your help is invaluable so thanks again

wanting your professional opinion on a setup im looking at getting:
Threadripper 3970x
128 Gig Ram - G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz Gaming RAM
Main Harddrive where programs are installed - Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVMe PCIe SSD
secondary HDD - 10TB SkyHawk Surveillance HDD 3.5" SATA 7200RPM
Power - Corsair 850W RMX 80+ Gold Fully Modular
GFX Card - using my existing gtx 1080 strix 8gig vram
Gigabyte TRX40 AORUS PRO
Cooling - i was recommended to get the Noctua NH-U14S but a user on this forum is saying he is getting 100c temps on a stress test?
A friend of mine bought the Coolermaster MasterLiquid ML360 RGB TR4 EDITION and is saying under coroan rendering, never goes above 65c which is great i guess.  It has 3x120mm fans.

Some questions and notes:
Regarding the 3970x - i read somewhere that someone compared it to a 3900 and it was only 1.5 times quicker... is there any merit to this?
As for the cooling
Possibly thinking the 3990x - i would have to get a loan haha!  But for those that have it, is it twice as fast as the 3970 given twice as many cores?

In terms of general use, I usually just install my programs on my main NVMe  hard drive and my assets on a secondary HDD (mechanical)  A friend of mine suggested using the NVMe main drive (or even a NVMe  secondary) for scene projects and regular use assets (ie megascans/poliigon) - is there any merit to this as to whether its best practice for loading times?

I would appreciate any guidance and assistance as i have limited PC hardware knowledge compared to some of you experts here.

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As the video above from KitGuru shows, Noctua is actually the best cooler. I almost want to ban the cooling questions after this :- ).
This has been proved for past 3 years, and still somebody asks it every week again.

It's not even surpassed by the experimental one when normalized to same RPM (1500), where Noctua is still 5 times quitere (40 vs 45dB).
So if they tested further noise normalized, Noctua would completely win.

So the only thing to do is, run CPUs stock, have well ventilated case. And not worry, AIDA64 or Prime are not representative of rendering workload, they're at least 10C more demanding.
(But Corona should introduce some limit option for denoising...)

The only alternative is custom water loop, which is investment of 700+ Euro and yearly maintenance.