Author Topic: Buying my first workstation  (Read 2613 times)

2018-10-15, 22:12:57

buncha

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Hello everyone, this is probably going to be annoying to you since i am a complete "noob" in pc building.
I want to start learning corona, i have some experience with vray, and i want to buy a new workstation. I am willing to spend around 1300e and i would like to be able to work normally on my PC and have some acceptable render times.

For example i would say that less than 2h for benchmark test would be acceptable render time.
I am looking into used workstations HP Z4 or Z6 series or new builds.. i don't know what pays of more. Is it even possible to achieve such result with 1300e? I live in Austria and any recommendation i would appreciate. Thank you very much.

2018-10-16, 00:42:13
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1300 Euro isn't bad budget at all ! You just have to decide where to make the compromise.

Buying used (or new but from second hand) is also pretty much mandatory whether it is full PC, or just parts. Memory and Drives (SSD,HDD) are mainly where you can save a lot.

Overclocked Ryzen build might actually be faster than used Xeon builds but it depends on what you can source in used Xeon builds.
You could actually even build Threadripper system (1920X 12-core) probably as they go for very cheap (I've seen as low as 320 euro but you need to shop around). I've seen auctions/bazaar (brand new both) for x399 boards go as low as 200 euro.

Here are the benefits/compromises you will take:

- Older Xeon build - Probably loud if pre-built (HP/DELL/IBM), weak entry-level quadro card, but lot's of memory. DDR3 was very cheap, so it's easy to score 64GB memory in this option.
- Ryzen build - Cheapest, leaves money for better GPU. Better GPU---> Corona can't use it outside of denoiser, but the denoiser is cool enough. Also, bigger scenes in 3ds Max before Viewport gets slow (need more GPU VRAM). Games ?
- Threadripper build - Just as fast or faster than older xeon build. Less money for GPU than Ryzen because CPU+MB are more expensive. Probably the most ideal solution.

Memory is super expensive and you need fast one for Ryzen&Threadripper. Cheapest fast (2666+) 32GB kit's I've seen are 200-250 Euro. So 32GB is what you can get in this budget if you go for Ryzen&Threadripper. Ideally you would stick with 4x8GB so you can get full quad-channel memory benefits.
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2018-10-16, 01:21:58
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yes i have been reading forums for 3h now and i have decided to try to do ryzen 1920x build but these memories and motherboard are killing me :) and also i have no idea what i would have to put into pc, what i need.

this is what i found right now

processor amd 1920x

gpu gtx1070 or gtx1060

motherboard x399

ram i have no idea.. probably corsair vengeance 4x8gb 2666mhz 270e

cooler Noctua NH U9 TR4

ssd samsung 850 evo 500gb

hdd i dont care but at least 2tb

psu some 750w corsair

case fractal design R5

i don't know if i need something else, i am guessing that now i just have to look around and find cheaper prices..



2018-10-16, 16:12:18
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Regarding Threadripper cooler, buy either of these two:

1) Noctua UH14S TR4
2) Dark Rock Pro TR4 (https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/dark-rock-pro-tr4-high-end-air-cooler-for-amd-ryzen-threadripper.html)

The latter one is bigger than Noctua, but doesn't seem to be rated for higher TDP.
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2018-10-17, 00:46:54
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I will go with the first one. Thank you very much for your time. This the first time i tried to buy components by myself, i hope that everything will work fine (:

2018-10-17, 16:56:14
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One more question please. About RAM. I hear that it is important to be high frequency, but i have read somewhere that officially threadripper support maximum 2667hz. So If i take any manufacturer with 2666hz i will be fine? to be honest i prefer stable machine to faster one which can make spend days of reading trying to fix something in BIOS

Any manufacturer 2666mhz RAM is ok?