I just find, -4 way too dark too like Frood, hence why I asked. I seem to be -3.5, -3 at the minute too, was just curious that's all. The reason I mentioned PBR becoming more commonplace is that PBR effectively introduced the notion that the Albedo (Diffuse) is actually much darker than what we first perceived or should I say used.
So for example white painted stucco walls albedo being around 170,170,170 - on a sunny day, i'd expect a white stucco wall to look quite blown out, but if you set that up in Corona with a sun/sky both being on 1, at EV -4.2 it looks super dull and grey, yet changing it to -3.25, with a touch of HC (say 1.5), it starts to look as I'd expect it look in reality with areas of direct sunlight looking nice and white.
So I was just querying and curious as to whether the suggested -4ish EV originally stemmed from materials being too bright as opposed to incorrect sun exposure