Okay hope this will help, i guess im trying to fake the shadows in a way, This first image is a matte black material, in a sunny HDRI scene in the environment slot only...i know the corona sun is not lined up with the hdri, i like the sun right where i have it. but the shadow is to blue to me,
This image has the shadow how i want it, but i had to disable the environment hdri, and use it in reflections override only, everything is fine and how i want except the fireflies showing, thats the only problem i get, so i guess im not able to do this. Sorry for the confusion.