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2024-05-02, 19:58:54
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Sorry to go a little off-topic here;

I'm just ordering a new PC and the following components have been selected by my guy.

I've already decided to upgrade to RTX 4070 12GB and use water-cooling (LIQTECH TR4 II Series 360mm Liquid CPU Cooler) instead of the air-cooling listed

Any thoughts? Anything I should be weary of?

Thanks!
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2024-05-02, 20:57:34
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TRX50, well, all Threadrippers (X and WX alike) now require Registered Memory modules same as Epyc. So that listed memory will not work.

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2024-05-02, 21:23:24
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Alright, thanks!

I'll check this out.

I'm certain he'll tell me you're wrong, but I trust you 100% so I'll press him on this!


Ah, I see he's already changed it to: Kingston DDR5 Fury Beast Black 64GB(2x32GB)/5600 CL40

Better?

(Your knowledge is simply amazing, Juraj. I cannot begin to comprehend how this has all not only been amassed but retained!)
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2024-05-02, 23:03:46
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Here is example of DDR5 RDIMM (the 'R' - Registered, is important) : https://www.kingston.com/en/memory/gaming/fury-renegade-ddr5-pro-rdimm?speed=5600mt%2Fs&total%20(kit)%20capacity=128gb&kit=kit%20of%204&dram%20density=16gbit&profile%20type=amd%20expo

It's unfortunately whole magnitude more expensive than regular DDR5 memory. I personally didn't know this information few weeks back :- ) I don't really keep up that well now that all PCs are fast and I am not upgrading very often. I know a lot about children bicycles though.

There are also many generic variants that go for cheaper (here is example from few pages back from this thread, I am linking the 256GB version but I am pretty sure there is 128 as well.
https://www.newegg.com/nemix-ram-256gb/p/1X5-003Z-01FM5

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2024-05-03, 12:27:49
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I know a lot about children bicycles though.

Heh, I know the feeling.

Thanks again. My PC guy is updating the components list faster than I can keep up with. Please see latest, any red flags? Still a RAM mismatch?
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2024-05-03, 17:22:19
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I know a lot about children bicycles though.

Heh, I know the feeling.

Thanks again. My PC guy is updating the components list faster than I can keep up with. Please see latest, any red flags? Still a RAM mismatch?
Do not use Enermax, they've been known for issues generation after generation with their liquid AIO and bad fluid. You have two great options from Silverstone for that processor. Just make sure you go with a 360 mm rad.

2024-06-02, 07:26:54
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Hi guys,

Got my 7980X machine. it's really is a beast!

Just one thing I noticed is that it is less workable during IR compare to my old machine which is Ryzen 9 5950X. when I say less workable it is difficult to tweak materials, move object and update objects while on IR.
I understand that in IR it uses the whole CPU, but it is just different experience in 5950X. Anyone experience this?

Here's my specs :

CPU: 7980X
MOBO: Gigabyte TRX50 AERO D rev.1.0
RAM: Kingston 256GB 5600MT/s
GPU: ASUS RTX 4060 OC
PSU: ASUS Aura edition 1200W 80+ Gold

2024-06-03, 11:26:44
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Hi guys,

Got my 7980X machine. it's really is a beast!

Just one thing I noticed is that it is less workable during IR compare to my old machine which is Ryzen 9 5950X. when I say less workable it is difficult to tweak materials, move object and update objects while on IR.
I understand that in IR it uses the whole CPU, but it is just different experience in 5950X. Anyone experience this?

Here's my specs :

CPU: 7980X
MOBO: Gigabyte TRX50 AERO D rev.1.0
RAM: Kingston 256GB 5600MT/s
GPU: ASUS RTX 4060 OC
PSU: ASUS Aura edition 1200W 80+ Gold

Hmm I don't really think there should be much of a difference. Do you think you could disable SMT and give it a try? Wonder if that would help.

Also, kudos on the beastly machine!!
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2024-06-03, 12:50:12
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Hi guys,

Got my 7980X machine. it's really is a beast!

Just one thing I noticed is that it is less workable during IR compare to my old machine which is Ryzen 9 5950X. when I say less workable it is difficult to tweak materials, move object and update objects while on IR.
I understand that in IR it uses the whole CPU, but it is just different experience in 5950X. Anyone experience this?

Here's my specs :

CPU: 7980X
MOBO: Gigabyte TRX50 AERO D rev.1.0
RAM: Kingston 256GB 5600MT/s
GPU: ASUS RTX 4060 OC
PSU: ASUS Aura edition 1200W 80+ Gold

Hmm I don't really think there should be much of a difference. Do you think you could disable SMT and give it a try? Wonder if that would help.

Also, kudos on the beastly machine!!
I tested Corona vs V-Ray and found V-Ray to be much faster working with materials and with IR and stuff. That's because V-Ray moved everything to Qt correct? Is Corona going to move to Qt?

2024-06-03, 18:59:02
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The VFB is getting rewritten for Corona 12, yes.
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2024-06-03, 19:28:59
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The VFB is getting rewritten for Corona 12, yes.
Is Corona going to use Qt for the SME and materials?

2024-06-17, 12:54:38
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Hey guys,

I have been thinking of making a new render slave as the other ones are getting a bit old for nowadays.

I'm thinking of 7970x and only in case it would make so much difference 7980x (I have seen benchmarks it's score but I'm not sure if the double price on the processor is worth as a slave mostly for still visuals).
I'm currently working on 7950x so the difference on rendering should be noticeable, your thought would be very much appreciated as you have already face any issues that might be arise with a TRX build and compatibility issues.}

Thanks in advance!

2024-06-26, 17:01:31
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Just built a Threadripper PC for my wife who uses 3DS Max & Corona Renderer and had dropped in on this forum prior to picking parts to see what others had done.

So just some feedback from us.

Went with the following build:
7980X (picked the 7980X over the 7970X based on reviews - chip layout seems to favour better cooling over the 7970X (more cores (plus), but higher cost (minus), of course!)
Asrock TRX50 mobo
128 GB Kingston Fury RDIMM RAM (RDIMM not UDIMM and thanks to whoever pointed that out earlier in this thread as it saved me ordering the wrong RAM!)
RTX 3090 (from existing build)
Corsair SF1000L (from prior build - given the air cooler and mostly rendering use should be fine for now - if she ends up using GPU heavily in parallel with rendering then this might need upgrading)
Noctua NH-U14S TR5-SP6 (fits the 7980X without any further adapters)
Fractal Design Pop Air - reasonable size without looking like a garden shed stuck in the living room.
Two fans on the cooler (push pull) and four case fans (two front intake and one roof exhaust and one rear exhaust)

Corona benchmark 32,800,000 (350 W power draw)
Cinebench R23 93,000 (350 W power draw)

Went with air cooling instead of an AIO. There are a couple of good Youtube videos on the 7980X (gamer channels) and it seemed that to get 10-20% extra performance on Cinebench R23 you'd need to overclock and use an AIO and power consumption would be about 600-700 W i.e. double to power, so to me didn't seem worth it. An air cooler is simpler in the long run and easier to install. We're running pretty much stock settings in Ryzenmaster. No undervolting. Stock EDC/TDC/PPT (PPT = 350W). I did however reduce max temp from 95°C to to 85°C, just to be safe.

Today it is 29°C in the flat and the CPU is running at about 79°C while rendering an animation. The rest of the year I would hope it will be running mid to low 70's during rendering. On light loads it's around 40°C. In any case, the CPU temperatures are far better than my wife's prior i9-14900K - even after undervolting that thing was running 80°C with an AIO when rendering  - the case was smaller though.

Took the lazy route and just transferred the M.2 C drive from the old build in to the new build. No fresh install of windows. No fresh install of 3DS Max / Corona or any of her other 3d visualisation programs. Updated chipset drivers. Didn't update BIOS. Used RevoUninstaller (free) to fully uninstall Intel / ASUS programs from the old build and used Wise Registry cleaner to clean up registry files. I'm not saying this is the pro way to do things but probably saved half a day of reinstalling everything and another two days of piecemeal installing all the plugins, scripts and miscellany that got forgotten along the way.

The only niggle was Ryzen Master conflciting with HWMonitor, HWInfo64 etc - we were checking temps, clock speeds, voltages etc closely the first couple of days. Now all stable and running fine but now only run Ryzen Master and don't run any other monitoring in parallel. There is no doubt a clever fix to the Ryzen Master conflict but can't be bothered to spend the time resolving it.

It's a great processor, the 7980X. Well impressed with it. Stable and the Noctua fans keep the sound levels reasonable even today.

Anyway, just thought I would share because I found this thread useful in preparing for my wife's build.
« Last Edit: 2024-06-26, 17:10:50 by kittste »

2024-06-27, 16:06:03
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@kittste

thank you kindly for sharing that! Really useful information for the rest of us :) I wonder how far a 7980x would go on a the new ProSiphon thingy :)
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2024-06-27, 18:59:33
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