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Hardware / Re: Laptop vs Desktop in 2024

« on: 2024-07-13, 17:14:12 »

Heeey Ono,

Thanks. Actually went with the Lenovo Legion 7 2024 (non pro) 14700hx i7, rtx 4060, 32gb. I went with a slimmer device since I don't know how much rendering I will be doing in the future and wanted a more hybrid machine. After checking the benchmarks on the internet I came to the conclusion that the i9 doesn't provide a really huge difference in multicore performance, especially in the slimmer model but on the other hand might generate more heat.  Same with the gpu - I won't be actually needing something above a 4060. I might upgrade the ram and ssd in the future though if a need arises. Do you know if the 14700hx also supports dual 48gb ram? Couldn't find info about that.

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Hardware / Re: Laptop vs Desktop in 2024

« on: 2024-07-03, 16:17:22 »

Haha I guess you're right :) Good quote. I have a similar one that goes along that :)) Appreciate your insights!

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Hardware / Re: Laptop vs Desktop in 2024

« on: 2024-06-30, 10:19:20 »

Thanks Juraj. The majority of benchmarks must probably be done with short runs which create a bigger gap between different cpus? But I guess in real world cases like rendering the gap becomes smaller because of wattage like you said. I was quite surprised by this comparison:

where the difference between a legion 5 pro with a 14650hx and the legion 7 pro 14900hx was only 24000 to 27000 in CB. Guess in real world applications it would be even smaller.

That being said, would you say that there is no big difference of going with a 14650hx or a 14900hx/7945hx in a similar laptop for Corona? I suppose the 7945hx would make a bit bigger difference for multithreading but I can only find a few laptops with it. I see a Legion 7 pro with a 7945hx and a 4080 at a local retailer but that one is quite expensive and I don't want to overpay for the GPU. Also there is an Asus Strix G17 with a 7945hx and a 4060 for almost half the price (would need to add ram though). However, I don't like the gamery looks of the Asus. And Lenovos should probably be better in terms of reliability and if the 14650hx would provide almost the same speed as the top cpus, I would probably just go with a Legion 5 pro (14650hx/4060) which would be the cheapest of the bunch.

Thanks again!

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Hardware / Re: Laptop vs Desktop in 2024

« on: 2024-06-28, 12:00:04 »

Thanks. Yeah sure, makes sense if you like the OS and don't need the power of a full mobile workstation :) Should be way easier to use if it provides what you need.

Pity that the 14900hx and 13900hx Legion 5 Pro's I had my eyes on were sold out recently. Might have to wait for the new batch. I was now comparing the 14700hx and 14650hx variants but am a little confused. Maybe you can help me with this if you want :)) Do you guys have any idea why the benchmarks for the 14700hx and the 14650hx are almost identical? The 14700hx has more cores so it should be evident at least in the multicore:

https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-14700hx-vs-intel-core-i7-14650hx

If the performance is the same, doesn't make sense to go with the 14700hx. Though it is weird.

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Hardware / Re: Laptop vs Desktop in 2024

« on: 2024-06-23, 22:50:10 »

Thanks. Really appreciate the opinions guys. Snapdragon/ARM looks interesting but are you planning to render on it? :)

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Hardware / Re: Laptop vs Desktop in 2024

« on: 2024-06-21, 01:15:16 »

Thanks Juraj,

Yeah probably a better I idea to stick with the HX chips. Today I found some quite good deals on last year's Legion 5 Pros with 7945hx and 13900hx. Might go with one of those. Do you guys have experience running these chips? the 7945hx seems to be quite ahead in multicore scores while the 13900hx seems like almost the same chip as the 14900hx. Both look like rather good deals.

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Hardware / Re: Laptop vs Desktop in 2024

« on: 2024-06-19, 22:35:41 »

Thanks for your insights James and Juraj!

James, here is the studiobook with a 4060 that I found available locally:

https://bigbox.lt/nesiojami-kompiuteriai/1847971-asus-studiobook-pro-16-oled-h7604jv-my067w-mineral-black-16-oled-touchscreen-glossy-intel-core-i9-i9-13980hx-32-gb-ddr5-so-dimm-ssd-1tb-intel-uhd-graphics-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-laptop-gpu-windows-11-home-keyboard-backlit-4711387513705.html

But there is another version with a RTX 3000 like you mentioned. However, I'm still leaning towards the Lenovo after the reviews I've watched. I can also get the Legion 5 Pro model that I mentioned a few euros cheaper (the one with the 14900hx, 32gb ram, rtx4070):

https://bigbox.lt/nesiojami-kompiuteriai/1959802-lenovo-legion-pro-5-16irx9-intel-core-i9-i9-14900hx-laptop-406-cm-16-wqxga-32-gb-ddr5-sdram-1-tb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-wi-fi-6e-80211ax-windows-11-home-grey.html

Thanks Juraj for the info regarding the ram compatibility with the current gen platforms. You're correct, the 32gb I have laying around is DDR4 so I'm guessing I won't be able to use it. Was not aware of it.  I know that it's not possible to mix ram but was thinking to replace the one that comes with stock (in case I buy a laptop with 16gb). Oh well. Will check the laptop forum you mentioned. Thanks!

By the way guys, do you have experience/opinions about using the new intel ultra processors for Corona? I was thinking also about the Lenovo Yoga Pro 9 (2024) 16'' with a 185h. Of course its not as capable as the 14900hx but still twice faster than my current 6900k :)). Also it seems to be super efficient and the laptop I saw locally on display was ice cold to the touch. Though that was from an earlier generation I think, but still. Here is the current gen model that I was interested in:

https://bigbox.lt/nesiojami-kompiuteriai/1914660-kompiuteris-lenovo-yoga-pro-9-16imh9-16-intel-core-ultra-9-ram-32gb-1tb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-windows-11-pro-83dn006smh-198153128358.html

The Yoga seemed like a pretty nice hybrid between performance and portability since I'm not sure how much rendering I will be doing in the future. Though probably this is not the best choice for rendering full time.

Feel free if you'd like to share which would you guys choose yourself between the studiobook, Legion 5 pro and the Yoga 9. I was thinking also at first about the 2024 Legion 7 (non pro). Its slimmer and the white version especially looks really nice but I think its better to go with a thicker chasis for rendering like the Legion 5 pro because I would loose performance due to lower wattage. Furthermore, the Legion 7 I saw displayed was quite warm even just sitting there. Should get really hot when rendering.

Thanks again for your opinions guys!

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Hardware / Re: Laptop vs Desktop in 2024

« on: 2024-06-17, 18:14:14 »

Hello,

Yes, I meant the 4060 and 4070 in the Legion 5 Pro. Thanks for your insights. Regarding the cpu comparison you showed, it compares the 13650hx with the 14900hx, not the 14650hx. The 14650hx has more cores than the earlier 13650hx. However, the 14900hx is of course still faster as you said. Its a pity that the sellers where I am don't offer configurations with 14900hx and rtx 4060 to max out on the cpu (I am located in Lithuania). Not sure if there are ways to configure it myself and have it delivered here. Though I have found an Asus Studio book Pro with a 13980hx, rtx 4060 and 32gb of ram. Do you have any thoughts on those? By the way, its interesting that you have your gpu switched off even at times. So basically if I would need to upgrade my desktop that I mentioned (6900k with gtx 1060) its not worth to upgrade the gpu at all? Wonder if it would not have any bottlenecks with a 7950x or a 14900k, 64gb of ram and a gtx 1060 :))

Thanks a lot!

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Hardware / Re: Laptop vs Desktop in 2024

« on: 2024-06-16, 13:19:33 »

Thanks James. I had no idea that having insufficient RAM results in slower renders. That being said I guess it would be wiser for me to go with the cheaper Legion 5 pro version (14650hx, rtx 1060, 16gb ram) and use the extra cash to purchase two sticks of 32gb memory to replace the one that comes with it. Or would you suggest going with the more expensive one that has the 14900hx, rtx 1070, 32gb of ram right away. And then add more RAM when I can afford it. By the way, at the moment I am doing only interiors, but most likely will do exteriors later on. Thanks again!

Oh and regarding the maximum capacity of memory on the Legion 5 pro, I came to the same conclusion as you. I think the maximum configuration that Lenovo offers is 32gb of RAM when you buy the laptop but it can be expanded up to 64 (2x32gb).

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Hardware / Re: Laptop vs Desktop in 2024

« on: 2024-06-15, 23:34:14 »

Hey there James,

Much appreciate your insights and quick reply. Good idea having someone to have a maintenance check of your machine done each 6 months. By the way, do I understand it correctly, that having insufficient RAM will make the scenes that are too big for it to crash but otherwise it will not effect viewport performance and things like that? Also do you know if RAM speed has any effect? Because I might replace the stock 16gb that would come with the laptop which might be 4800mhz with my 32 gb of 3200 mhz RAM which I already have.

Thanks again and glad to hear that you are enjoying your chosen lifestyle :) Hope myself to become more flexible with my work location again soon

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Hardware / Laptop vs Desktop in 2024

« on: 2024-06-15, 18:04:33 »

Hello friends,

I have recently came back to archviz (using 3ds Max + Corona) and working on quite an old 6900k gtx 1060 workstation. I want to make an upgrade. However, mobility is quite important to me. So I was looking into this year's Lenovo Legion laptops and am focused on the Legion 5 pro (14900hx + rtx 4070 + 32gb of RAM) or a cheaper variant with (14650hx + rtx 4060 + 16gb of RAM). I have two spare sticks of 16gb 3200mhz RAM memory and could use it if I buy the cheaper Legion 5 pro variant. My plan would then be to use the old workstation as a render node for some extra power.

However, I am worried whether working and rendering on a laptop like this could lead to degradation of hardware at some point. Would greatly appreciate the opinion of those who have experience of using laptops for 3ds Max + Corona for long periods of time. Did you have some issues? Since the gap between cpu rendering in mobile chips and desktops has been getting smaller and smaller I am very interested in buying a laptop for my work. However, I am worried that using it for archviz full time could lead to it degrading in a year or two. Another option for me would be to upgrade my current desktop with a 7950x or a 14900k but as I said before, being able to take my work with me is quite important for me so would definitely prefer having a mobile solution.

Opinions much appreciated! Thanks a lot!

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-09-16, 20:56:14 »

Thanks for the reply. How much do you want for the dellided 7980xe? :)

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-09-16, 11:05:20 »

Hey guys, sorry to jump in. Juraj, would it be possible for you to post some comparison of viewport performance in 3ds Max between 2990wx and 7980xe? There are a lot of rendering reviews but I'm especially wondering how the 2990wx performs while modelling or navigating the viewport since it has not so good reviews regarding gaming.

Thanks a lot