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General Category => Gallery => Topic started by: asvee on 2015-03-26, 19:23:24

Title: Kitchen France
Post by: asvee on 2015-03-26, 19:23:24
3ds max, Corona, Photoshop

Trying Corona with simple geometry.
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: johan belmans on 2015-03-26, 19:32:12
Hi there

not bad, well done!!
Although in the second image the oven and coffee machine look over streched.

I am dealing with a Gaggenau kitchen aswell.
Could you tell me where you have found/bought the induction cooktop?

cheers
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: asvee on 2015-03-26, 19:49:32
Hi there

not bad, well done!!
Although in the second image the oven and coffee machine look over streched.

I am dealing with a Gaggenau kitchen aswell.
Could you tell me where you have found/bought the induction cooktop?

cheers

Thanks for comment. I am totally agree about coffee machine. My mistake with the size.
About cooktop. If you are talking about display I took this picture from internet.
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: Juraj on 2015-03-26, 21:41:09
That's some pretty good re-creation ! Bit warmer light (or separation) would push it further imho.

.. like in the original :- ) Since I have the series on my harddisk it would be good if you gave credit where due:

It's existing project from i29 architects. "Invisible Kitchen". Not only 'Kitchen France', don't allude to make it look like it's your design or commercial project.

https://www.behance.net/gallery/17095339/invisible-kitchen
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: twoheads on 2015-03-26, 22:50:49
I agree, nice and clean renders. I would play with it even in PS as Juraj said, if "re-creation" was your intention.
BTW: could you write something about the resolution and render times on your mashine?
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: vkiuru on 2015-03-27, 10:55:08
Very pleasant lighting and overall beautiful stuff! Out of curiosity, since there's variation between users, what RGB value you use for the white walls?


That's some pretty good re-creation ! Bit warmer light (or separation) would push it further imho.

.. like in the original :- ) Since I have the series on my harddisk it would be good if you gave credit where due:

It's existing project from i29 architects. "Invisible Kitchen". Not only 'Kitchen France', don't allude to make it look like it's your design or commercial project.

https://www.behance.net/gallery/17095339/invisible-kitchen

That's a bit much, maybe he didn't see it necessary? If I was to model a building according to a couple of images I see in a magazine, the kind that doesn't focus on the building itself but shows pictures of it on the side wouldn't necessarily even have the required info. It's a rude leap from "just naming a thread in a manner that explains what the thread is about" to going straight up to the extreme and suggest his intention was to pass others' design as his/her own. Who even cares about getting credit like that?
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: Juraj on 2015-03-27, 11:20:04
It might have sound accusatory but it was not, rather a cautious warning. But if he simply edits the post and add simple line of text adding it's based on existing project, all would be good ;- ).

Why I think it's important ? Because in the recent years I've seen growing trend in certain dishonesty.

And sorry that you don't see it important, but it can actually be considered plagiatory by the original photographer/architect so this is not some personal issue of mine.
Of course he (and many others) don't see it as necessary ,but you honestly don't think that's a practice that should be changed ? Why keep stuff in grey zone ?

If I was architect/photographer of project, and I saw my own project getting compliments under different name, yes I would be slightly tipped off at best. While being credited, I could see it either as compliment or insult :- ) Depending on quality (sarcasm..for you).

Anything else ? Everytime I bring something up and get instantly contra-indicted why I bother, I realize the 3D world is still living in its own ignorant bubble without any hint of professionalism of other industries (like photography have).
If that's fine, continue, I will simply ignore those who do so then from now on.
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: vkiuru on 2015-03-27, 12:05:22
It might have sound accusatory but it was not, rather a cautious warning. But if he simply edits the post and add simple line of text adding it's based on existing project, all would be good ;- ).

Why I think it's important ? Because in the recent years I've seen growing trend in certain dishonesty.

And sorry that you don't see it important, but it can actually be considered plagiatory by the original photographer/architect so this is not some personal issue of mine.
Of course he (and many others) don't see it as necessary ,but you honestly don't think that's a practice that should be changed ? Why keep stuff in grey zone ?

If I was architect/photographer of project, and I saw my own project getting compliments under different name, yes I would be slightly tipped off at best. While being credited, I could see it either as compliment or insult :- ) Depending on quality (sarcasm..for you).

Anything else ? Everytime I bring something up and get instantly contra-indicted why I bother, I realize the 3D world is still living in its own ignorant bubble without any hint of professionalism of other industries (like photography have).
If that's fine, continue, I will simply ignore those who do so then from now on.

You have brought a respectable amount of information and inspiration to this forum, but you get too carried away when your ideals aren't respected 100%. You could have left the last part out and I would have taken your reply as a sensible response but threatening people with ignore-mode is dramatic and silly. Loosen up a bit, not everything that contradicts your opinions is an instant threat to your health.

Want to ignore someone? fine, do it, but what purpose does it serve to announce it publicly? Also, asking out loud "why bother saying anything when *words words words*" is becoming a trademark of yours and is a hissy fit and far from professional, now that you mentioned professionalism. With all due respect. You started out fine but that last part is silly.
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: Juraj on 2015-03-27, 12:30:50
Because that is my trademark :- ) I am far worse in real.

If you write something like "Who even cares about it?" that boils my blood and my response is always in lieu of my temperament. To me professionalism is far more connected to deeds than words.

I am out of the off-topic.

Sorry asvee, I think your images are great and only wish you wrote what it is.
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: vkiuru on 2015-03-27, 12:42:06
Because that is my trademark :- ) I am far worse in real.

If you write something like "Who even cares about it?" that boils my blood and my response is always in lieu of my temperament. To me professionalism is far more connected to deeds than words.

I am out of the off-topic.

Sorry asvee, I think your images are great and only wish you wrote what it is.

Enough off topic from me also, but please Juraj in the future, do not try to excuse your tantrums as being some uncontrollable temperament. There's no such thing, it's just the easy way out. There's a keyboard between you and your "temperament", that buys you plenty enough time to filter the worst out.

asvee: sorry for getting sidetracked here :)
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: twoheads on 2015-03-27, 13:19:20
now we know why we are all just  "virtual friends" ;P

from my point of view... almost all professional photographers are very sensitive in this matter. For example if you wish to publish/post one or few of their photos you usually have to pay for them. If you're lucky and you know the photographer just credits will do. In this particular situation when you are trying to re-create someone else's work (shot's, angles, style) it's not that hard to put just a note about who is the owner and original author isn't it? Don't get me wrong, it's nothing personal I thing your renders are grat..etc but putting credits it's just a matter of good manners and I personally think it should be trated as habbit. That is my two cents.

TH
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: PROH on 2015-03-27, 20:56:57
I don't think designers/architects are les sensitive than photographers - and why should they not care about credits?

BTW - great modeling and renders. I really like it. Made me curious about the designer to :)
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: Cyanhide on 2015-03-27, 21:20:39
Nice renders, although am I the only one here wondering where the water goes? Its a nice design but it doesn't make to much sense xD
Loving the lighting!
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: Juraj on 2015-03-27, 22:07:52
Nice renders, although am I the only one here wondering where the water goes? Its a nice design but it doesn't make to much sense xD


It's optical illusion. It gets thick enough in middle for the plumbing :- )
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: Fritzlachatte on 2015-03-28, 18:05:51
The idea of an "invisible" kitchen and how the architects handled it, is clever, but why the hell don´t they hide the ugly 0815 faucet in one of three cabinets ?! Instead they have an iMac inside, sorry that is childish. Thats the point where I prefer the rendered non branded "remake" to the original version. He has a better contrast/ choice of colors and I really like the portrait of the black woman. The original has to many colored distractions so Asvee gave the composition an added value. I think Juraj is right with his uplifted forefinger of integrity and I thank him for the possibility of comparison to the original and other great projects of i29 I didn´t know before. btw. Juraj´s first message was quite friendly, ain´t no need for varicose veins.         
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: Cyanhide on 2015-03-29, 00:35:09
Nice renders, although am I the only one here wondering where the water goes? Its a nice design but it doesn't make to much sense xD


It's optical illusion. It gets thick enough in middle for the plumbing :- )

It can't hold that much water then? All style and no logic I see, hate those designs.
Title: Re: Kitchen France
Post by: mga1981 on 2015-04-07, 18:08:48
Excellent work man, i love it. Can you tell how do you make your background outside the windows?