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Title: Swedish Apartment
Post by: daniel.reutersward on 2015-01-05, 11:43:14
Hi,

I´m starting off this year with a new personal project.

I´ve taken inspiration from different apartments found at fantasticfrank.se and bo-laget.com.

Regards,

Daniel
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: Art15 on 2015-01-05, 14:28:06
The lighting, I like!
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: Kristoffer Andersen on 2015-01-05, 14:51:33
Some of the best interior renders I've seen with Corona. Well done!
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: RolandB on 2015-01-05, 15:43:13
Superb ! I really like the second shot. How did you make the fog effect on the ceiling lamp ?
Congrats, and I agree with Kristoffer Andersen...
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: borisquezadaa on 2015-01-05, 15:51:20
Hmmm... i really like the cloth material.
Did you mind sharing some material's settings?. Is just a lot of this stuff here on the forums looks like plaster or plastic or worse.
This one looks just rigth.
Well done.
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: Juraj on 2015-01-05, 21:38:23
Very pleasing light. Feels warm, natural, very easy on eyes. I would say great images !

Just in case you can accept critique, the bed is mediocre in my eyes. Veronika and I call it (in general), "undercomputed" simulation, where I can still see MarvelousD errors in mesh but also visual inconsistency in creasing and detail, leading towards CGI-ish look. It's always good to go lowest possible (3?) in density and let it compute for hours,
even though it looks ok after few minutes. The algorithm does actually get very slow and starts processing certain chunks, leading often to radical difference after few hours of computation (often overnight). Marvelous is fast, but not fast enough for final quality. It's good to think of it, and sacrifice those hours to finish the simulation.
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: daniel.reutersward on 2015-01-05, 22:53:36
The lighting, I like!

Thanks!

Some of the best interior renders I've seen with Corona. Well done!

Thank you for the kind words!

Superb ! I really like the second shot. How did you make the fog effect on the ceiling lamp ?
Congrats, and I agree with Kristoffer Andersen...

Thank you! That is a result of using Arion Fx during the post-processing.

Hmmm... i really like the cloth material.
Did you mind sharing some material's settings?. Is just a lot of this stuff here on the forums looks like plaster or plastic or worse.
This one looks just rigth.
Well done.

Thanks! Sure, but which of the cloth-materials are you thinking of?

Very pleasing light. Feels warm, natural, very easy on eyes. I would say great images !

Just in case you can accept critique, the bed is mediocre in my eyes. Veronika and I call it (in general), "undercomputed" simulation, where I can still see MarvelousD errors in mesh but also visual inconsistency in creasing and detail, leading towards CGI-ish look. It's always good to go lowest possible (3?) in density and let it compute for hours,
even though it looks ok after few minutes. The algorithm does actually get very slow and starts processing certain chunks, leading often to radical difference after few hours of computation (often overnight). Marvelous is fast, but not fast enough for final quality. It's good to think of it, and sacrifice those hours to finish the simulation.

Thanks! Absolutely, you can always improve your work so constructive critique is good! And I agree regarding the bed. This time it was me being lazy, so I used a bed I did a while back when I should have created a new one from scratch. I find it kind of hard to create beds so that is something I´m going to look into further :)
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: nehale on 2015-01-05, 23:13:49
Man i just love your lighting, always have an awesome mood,

BTW... are the chairs in the kitchen floating?
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: daniel.reutersward on 2015-01-06, 00:20:00
Man i just love your lighting, always have an awesome mood,

BTW... are the chairs in the kitchen floating?

Thank you! A friend asked me the same question, but there are plastic-things that are hard to see. I´ve attached a picture that easier shows them :)
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: Juraj on 2015-01-06, 01:12:14
That is a result of using Arion Fx during the post-processing.

How do you like it... ? We had this as small discussion recently in other topic, with neither of us being impressed much. Do you feel it helps you better compared to plugins like CameraRaw and Looks ?
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: daniel.reutersward on 2015-01-06, 10:00:35
That is a result of using Arion Fx during the post-processing.

How do you like it... ? We had this as small discussion recently in other topic, with neither of us being impressed much. Do you feel it helps you better compared to plugins like CameraRaw and Looks ?

Interesting, here on Corona forum?

I had some problems with Looks (mostly with high-res exr-files, bad zoom,not being able to zoom 100% on higher than 2k renders, and other problems) otherwise I really like Looks. CameraRaw is also really nice!

Regarding ArionFx, I both like it and not. The bloom and glare are quite nice, but without a zoom-function it seems outdated and it´s pretty hard to see what the result is, especially on 5k renders. I also ran in to problems from the moment I tried using it on something like png-files (anything other than 32-bit). I really think it could be a good plugin if the developer listens to the customers needs. I mailed them asking politely if they have any plans on adding a zoom feature and it felt like the person answering me laughed in my face like I was stupid for wanting to be able to zoom...

Have you tried it Juraj? If so, what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: mito_O on 2015-01-06, 10:46:08
great work , like the atmosphere alot :)
could share some lighting setup ?? :)
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: Polymax on 2015-01-06, 10:47:46
Very good work! No critics from me)!
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: borisquezadaa on 2015-01-06, 14:30:25
Well... if i had too choose i would say the grey cover bed. :D
I'm curious about Arion... wonder if it worth the shot for small renders like mine.
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: Juraj on 2015-01-06, 14:50:16
I mailed them asking politely if they have any plans on adding a zoom feature and it felt like the person answering me laughed in my face like I was stupid for wanting to be able to zoom...

Have you tried it Juraj? If so, what are your thoughts?

LOL, sorry for the experience, but that seems like the general consensus of RandomControl. They're after all the guys who shut down the forum to stop people complaining :- ). Communication was obviously never their strong part...

I tried it briefly, but not sure it felt comfortable. Various preset settings, sort of chaotic. Actually I forgot more, maybe I should dig up my former answer on this forum :- D But I should try it again.

Yeah Looks does have issue with hi-res files, they look somehow re-sampled. Definitely have to switch with native app back and forth (more easily done in After Effects than PS, where I would have to use smart layer to do so).
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: daniel.reutersward on 2015-01-06, 16:03:22
great work , like the atmosphere alot :)
could share some lighting setup ?? :)

Thank you! There´s not much to it to be honest. I´ve used a HDRI together with VrayHDRI-loader, thats my total lighting setup :)

Very good work! No critics from me)!

Thanks!

Well... if i had too choose i would say the grey cover bed. :D
I'm curious about Arion... wonder if it worth the shot for small renders like mine.

Sure, I´ve attached a screenshot of the grey cover for the bed at the bottom of this post :) I think there´s a free demo (with watermarks everywhere so it´s hard too see) that you can try.


LOL, sorry for the experience, but that seems like the general consensus of RandomControl. They're after all the guys who shut down the forum to stop people complaining :- ). Communication was obviously never their strong part...

I tried it briefly, but not sure it felt comfortable. Various preset settings, sort of chaotic. Actually I forgot more, maybe I should dig up my former answer on this forum :- D But I should try it again.

Yeah Looks does have issue with hi-res files, they look somehow re-sampled. Definitely have to switch with native app back and forth (more easily done in After Effects than PS, where I would have to use smart layer to do so).

Yeah probably not the best way to treat customers :)
Those times when I used ArionFx I never used the presets (camera response curves?), but yes give another try!
Exactly! I find that I have to switch with native app with ArionFx as well...until they implement a zoom function, well IF they implement a zoom function. Yes, smart layer works pretty good with ArionFx and PS, but still not the optimal way to post-process!
It would be nice if Looks were updated to support higher resolution files! :)
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: borisquezadaa on 2015-01-06, 19:41:59
Thanks for the information on materials.
So if i get it straigth... a  fallof in the diffuse using 2 versions of the diff texture one a little whiter than other (using some color correction node i asume gamma perhaps or photoshoped one) question... is better to use brigthness, gamma, or saturation?
And a mix in the bump one with the textile fibers and other with some wrinkle map presume.
How do you mix the bump textures?... grayscale or normal map?... how do you mix it? add multiply overlay...
Sooo much questions arise.
I'm afraid we need mooooore...
If you have the time off course.
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: Coronaut on 2015-01-06, 19:58:44
Cool, i like how you balanced light in images, chrome, cloth... everything :D
btw. random control didn't close forum you just need to register.
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: johan belmans on 2015-01-06, 20:14:18
Quote
Regarding ArionFx, I both like it and not. The bloom and glare are quite nice, but without a zoom-function it seems outdated and it´s pretty hard to see what the result is, especially on 5k renders. I also ran in to problems from the moment I tried using it on something like png-files (anything other than 32-bit). I really think it could be a good plugin if the developer listens to the customers needs. I mailed them asking politely if they have any plans on adding a zoom feature and it felt like the person answering me laughed in my face like I was stupid for wanting to be able to zoom...

Hi, I drop into the Arion FX experience:

Just unfortunately they do not have a zoom option.
I asked them about it and about the "Use selection" option and got a friendly email back. (I got the answer on a monday...... ;-))
This is the reply:
"The 'use selection' option will not show up in the AFX preview (because it needs to operate on the entire image for certain effects to render properly) but once you click 'OK', only the selection on your image in Photoshop will be used to apply AFX.

It is not possible, at the moment, to zoom in and out the preview window. The reason so far is mostly technical and also related to some effects that cannot operate properly on a 'crop', and thus the entire image needs to be processed, zoomed or not. We will probably have to enhance that to allow zooming in the future."


The way I work around the problem is by converting my base layer (the original render, EXR in my case) into a SMART OBJECT.
So the ARION FX action becomes a smart filter.


edit:
OK I just read you guys have the same wotkflow....... 
Nevermind, for what I need it for, it is a good plugin. Just a bit slow on High Res images.





Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: Juraj on 2015-01-06, 22:38:13
Cool, i like how you balanced light in images, chrome, cloth... everything :D
btw. random control didn't close forum you just need to register.

I didn't refer to current situation. They did, back when they decided to abandon FryRender.
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: daniel.reutersward on 2015-01-06, 23:35:40
Thanks for the information on materials.
So if i get it straigth... a  fallof in the diffuse using 2 versions of the diff texture one a little whiter than other (using some color correction node i asume gamma perhaps or photoshoped one) question... is better to use brigthness, gamma, or saturation?
And a mix in the bump one with the textile fibers and other with some wrinkle map presume.
How do you mix the bump textures?... grayscale or normal map?... how do you mix it? add multiply overlay...
Sooo much questions arise.
I'm afraid we need mooooore...
If you have the time off course.

I have attached a new screenshot below, hope that helps! Otherwise I´ll post more screenshots ;)

Cool, i like how you balanced light in images, chrome, cloth... everything :D

Thank you! :)

I asked them about it and about the "Use selection" option and got a friendly email back. (I got the answer on a monday...... ;-))
This is the reply...

Nice that you got a nice reply! :)
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: fLuppster on 2015-01-07, 10:49:48
Is the background a flat texture or some geometry?
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: daniel.reutersward on 2015-01-07, 12:47:56
Is the background a flat texture or some geometry?

Everything is geometry... :)
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: borisquezadaa on 2015-01-07, 16:03:52
What where?... no attached image.
Thanks for your time.
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: nehale on 2015-01-07, 16:08:02
Is the background a flat texture or some geometry?

Everything is geometry... :)

Really? did you model the trees or they are from a model collection?
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: daniel.reutersward on 2015-01-07, 17:50:21
What where?... no attached image.
Thanks for your time.

Oops..hehe..sorry, must have missed to actually attached the screenshot! It should now be attached :)

Really? did you model the trees or they are from a model collection?

If I recall correctly they´re from Vizparks "Real Trees" collection.
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: borisquezadaa on 2015-01-07, 22:36:43
Well thats interesting... i'm gonna put to practice.
Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Swedish Apartment
Post by: daniel.reutersward on 2015-01-09, 09:27:53
Well thats interesting... i'm gonna put to practice.
Thank you so much.

No problem! I don´t know if there is any difference between my material setup and using 2 different bitmaps in the falloff-slot were one is brighter than the other, something I´m going to try!