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Title: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-07-21, 16:02:43: My design&visualization
To be continued...

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Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-07-24, 08:41:27: (http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0724/78/ffca8a961a77fe7a6e8fea63b9191478.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0724/ca/a8a278c642e5837937ac94244cbff1ca.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i68.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0724/e8/31cae45ecdb69adf7b126daaf64a19e8.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i65.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0724/cc/9451afcf72b665270376e224d75c51cc.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i68.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0724/46/52be1218e25d298ca28f31a229e29246.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0724/50/a86bf96e2d1d67fc39161d321d8e3950.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i65.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0724/8e/3e6285d3f2c5246cb3bdeb405829a38e.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: Cyanhide on 2014-07-24, 13:30:54: (http://i.imgur.com/woKwHrD.jpg)

But, maybe add a few details with some color, it will really give it that extra punch. Like a pink pillow or a yellow chandelier or something. Modern doesn't need to be so B&W.
I do like the overall theme. And those chairs in first render :o
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-07-24, 15:32:14: thanks for the comment )

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Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: steyin on 2014-07-24, 15:46:56: A little too dark with the lighting for my tastes. Can't see many details. I get that it may be mood lighting, but I'd brighten everything up a tad.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: gerbilho on 2014-07-24, 18:16:44: Way too dark!! I'm surprised you don't realise it.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-07-25, 15:51:19: (http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0725/f8/064f207821a976650ddd49f6dec9e4f8.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i65.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0725/77/21b3274c7ce2fc8686335d136cbfc177.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0725/e7/780b95f41e7aba47b24b58c2bcaeb7e7.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0725/99/d75e59c850b78fc5888d2f1cd154b299.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0725/f3/3b012a0f51ae84a1c926da2d84bc65f3.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0725/91/421866358ea2ece5bfa3fdf1f41de691.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: gerbilho on 2014-07-25, 15:58:55: Again your images are way too dark...
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-07-30, 13:04:14: (http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0730/98/c9ac1d846b3066b3f8e7fb9af8b28398.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i65.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0730/f0/400363c1bf644d8d1f1fa7c9d7a3cbf0.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0730/8a/4eff7db7201658e9baaa179c127c688a.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0730/72/f29393f813aba57dcd06fc3ec32adf72.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: Image Box Studios on 2014-07-30, 13:11:28: hi.....you have to work on shaders and textures....when you are master in texturing and shading, lighting is not a big issue at that time..keep it up.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-07-30, 13:23:17: Quote from: Image Box Studio International on 2014-07-30, 13:11:28
hi.....you have to work on shaders and textures....when you are master in texturing and shading, lighting is not a big issue at that time..keep it up.
thanks for the advice but judging by your portfolio in this practice in most need you
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: gerbilho on 2014-07-30, 17:20:36: Quote from: vogor on 2014-07-30, 13:23:17
Quote from: Image Box Studio International on 2014-07-30, 13:11:28
hi.....you have to work on shaders and textures....when you are master in texturing and shading, lighting is not a big issue at that time..keep it up.
thanks for the advice but judging by your portfolio in this practice in most need you

He was giving you his honest advice, with which I happen to agree. It is constructive criticism, you should be thankful, intead of trying to "attack" his work. He has a good portfolio, better than the images you have been showing here, so show a little respect.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: Ondra on 2014-07-31, 00:09:21: There will be no flame wars.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: romullus on 2014-07-31, 00:37:58: If you can't stand criticism and don't wan't to hear somebody's else opinion, please do write so with big red letters in first post of your thread, or better yet, stop showing your works at public. You can't hope that everybody will admire at what you doing. And offending those, that dear to criticise your work, doesn't make you to look any better.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-07-31, 00:52:19: Quote from: romullus on 2014-07-31, 00:37:58
If you can't stand criticism and don't wan't to hear somebody's else opinion, please do write so with big red letters in first post of your thread, or better yet, stop showing your works at public. You can't hope that everybody will admire at what you doing. And offending those, that dear to criticise your work, doesn't make you to look any better.

I'm wondering the opinion of professionals, and if there are ideas that can be and how improve the work.
Everyone has different tastes, who do not like can not write here and create own themes and show their skills, diluted flame not see the point.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: Ondra on 2014-07-31, 01:03:40: This is not a hugbox community. When you post here, you have to be ready to accept criticism (as long as it is constructive and polite). You should not fight criticism, but learn from it.

I've deleted your personal insult. One more and tempbans will start rolling.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-07-31, 01:09:07: If someone starts to aggressively impose their views then I am ready to explain it to him at his level that he is wrong.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-07-31, 06:26:10: (http://i65.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0731/d8/e71852b0575d5627cda545204f1ac8d8.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0731/f2/8092a9cce896eead1a20cc784aed15f2.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0731/b5/7794c01557de7ae339f188fd791713b5.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i68.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0731/ae/472675e7cdc64f9b7d2a883126d5baae.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i65.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0731/b0/0368f0b7f5ed86474660c7ebd0210bb0.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: Image Box Studios on 2014-07-31, 07:33:13: Quote from: vogor on 2014-07-30, 13:23:17
Quote from: Image Box Studio International on 2014-07-30, 13:11:28
hi.....you have to work on shaders and textures....when you are master in texturing and shading, lighting is not a big issue at that time..keep it up.
thanks for the advice but judging by your portfolio in this practice in most need you

Yes you are right. and i do agree that i am not a master in texturing and shading. but why we post our images here? and the answer is that peoples give us comments and feedback on our works. so it is my humble request to you that please be positive on any forum and should respect others comments.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: Image Box Studios on 2014-07-31, 07:34:08: Quote from: gerbilho on 2014-07-30, 17:20:36
Quote from: vogor on 2014-07-30, 13:23:17
Quote from: Image Box Studio International on 2014-07-30, 13:11:28
hi.....you have to work on shaders and textures....when you are master in texturing and shading, lighting is not a big issue at that time..keep it up.
thanks for the advice but judging by your portfolio in this practice in most need you

He was giving you his honest advice, with which I happen to agree. It is constructive criticism, you should be thankful, intead of trying to "attack" his work. He has a good portfolio, better than the images you have been showing here, so show a little respect.

Hi gerbilho...Thanks for your words.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: Nekrobul on 2014-07-31, 21:46:25: I think that the problem in your vizualizations is not the shaders and lighting, the problem is in atmospherics.

Those images doesent look tasty, like i want to be there or i want to by it.

For example

http://www.ronenbekerman.com/forums/finished-work/4621-ouverture-i-x.html
http://www.ronenbekerman.com/forums/finished-work/4824-scandinavian-interior.html
http://www.ronenbekerman.com/forums/finished-work/4977-bedroom.html
http://www.ronenbekerman.com/forums/finished-work/5220-project-dautzenberg.html

Here u can feel the light difusing in the room u can feel the air inside the room. Try to think what your works miss and this works have.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: Ludvik Koutny on 2014-07-31, 22:05:41: Well, the main problem is that they are simply too dark. Blacks are completely black. I have already said it once and will repeat myself. I think he should calibrate his monitor or get a better one. I really do not believe he sees the same brightness and contrast of his images as we see.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: Sportler on 2014-07-31, 22:40:21: Quote from: Nekrobul on 2014-07-31, 21:46:25
I think that the problem in your vizualizations is not the shaders and lighting, the problem is in atmospherics.

Those images doesent look tasty, like i want to be there or i want to by it.

For example

http://www.ronenbekerman.com/forums/finished-work/4621-ouverture-i-x.html
http://www.ronenbekerman.com/forums/finished-work/4824-scandinavian-interior.html
http://www.ronenbekerman.com/forums/finished-work/4977-bedroom.html
http://www.ronenbekerman.com/forums/finished-work/5220-project-dautzenberg.html

Here u can feel the light difusing in the room u can feel the air inside the room. Try to think what your works miss and this works have.

I completely agree with this statement. They lack the punch that give them a personality and atmosphere. Currently they look generic and not really very, well, interesting. This could relate to monitor calibration of course, but still. Feels a little extreme if that is the only issue.

Anyway, keep posting and keep improving! Also, remember that C&C is one of your most valuable tools to do just so, as it will feed your brain with more information to consider while planning, sketching, modeling, texturing, shading, lighting, composing and post processing your work!

Have a nice day!
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: Nekrobul on 2014-08-01, 00:21:13: Quote from: Rawalanche on 2014-07-31, 22:05:41
Well, the main problem is that they are simply too dark. Blacks are completely black. I have already said it once and will repeat myself. I think he should calibrate his monitor or get a better one. I really do not believe he sees the same brightness and contrast of his images as we see.

Yes probably you are right, i alway work on two PC's with two different monitors. One old samsung i got from home along with my PC and second is DELL (don't actualy remember the model) but thats not the point.

The point is that i always have to re ajust lithing and sometimes materials to achive same result a made couple of minutes before on old monitor.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-08-18, 12:34:49: (http://i68.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0818/b5/7fc853195ae4025c143b72d1b89107b5.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i64.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0818/54/f808ce0929527998fbf98692b4bec854.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0818/ca/f4a08ee81fa3698371f5cd1bd87672ca.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i68.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0818/43/db6cb5f4b3cfce2442dce559182c1543.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-08-18, 12:37:32: (http://i63.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0818/40/522309b09bf2f9e9617fd877ffed9440.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i68.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0818/3f/f73ed97069e261d1cfe3e0929f5a033f.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0818/27/bc56f668ee423a584f1b9eef2b968627.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0818/94/84b09fe2a3c41af1c8e203056e42bd94.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: romullus on 2014-08-18, 15:13:34: Is Huayra's poster, screenshot from pcars? Looks very familiar.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-08-24, 02:16:58: (http://i68.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0824/0c/bcd9c3794dc741da949d3e8c54d9fa0c.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i64.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0824/33/7f7c8f313458dddd578acc622c9bfc33.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i68.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0824/75/4cf9715d58ae5809cef7f4219aa06975.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i63.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0824/ad/58453d126d7c75bfaf1328d6a4d5a4ad.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: kehaola on 2014-08-24, 04:57:09: Quote from: vogor on 2014-08-24, 02:16:58

Isn't it difficult to go to the desk and sit down or stand up? People will hit their head to the ceiling no matter what.

The scene needs much more detail and atmosphere. Overall all the images look too dark, compositions need some love as well as design choices.

Keep it up!
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: rafpug on 2014-08-24, 22:29:17: Hello vogor

Is possible to know (one such example) settings rendering? and rendering time ?
The type and setting of the lights ?

Thanks
R
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-08-24, 23:12:02: Hi,

Simple: PT+HD, CoronaSky+HDR
Rendertime: 2-3 hours
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: modern_babylon on 2014-08-25, 03:40:18: Hi Vogor,

Your level of detail in most of these images is really good but like a few have said before, I too think they fall on the dark side (accidental Star Wars reference) of where they could/should be. To remedy this, i'm wondering if it's not worth introducing some artificial light into the scenes? Turn you lamps on and some overhead lighting too and i think your end result will be MUCH more engaging. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-08-25, 06:10:22: I like that kind of gamma, night renders with artificial lighting will be later.
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: modern_babylon on 2014-08-25, 06:44:32: Quote from: vogor on 2014-08-25, 06:10:22
I like that kind of gamma, night renders with artificial lighting will be later.

Cool, I was referring to these images though. Most architectural photography utelises artificial + natural lighting when shooting interiors. Not only is it going to help brighten up your scene but the additional light sources create extra shadow definition and interest and can even help lead the viewers eye around the image done correctly. You have lots of reflective surfaces/objects that would reflect additional light so perhaps its worth a try? You might be surprised how much more detail some extra/subtle light sources may give these images :)
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-08-25, 06:49:25: ok, thanks for the advice
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-09-17, 10:14:05: (http://i63.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0917/bc/56c6e976a2e888fe1ec66ae6121148bc.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)
Title: Re: Modern Interior
Post by: vogor on 2014-09-17, 10:15:43: (http://i63.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0917/f9/4ec9d5d446cacdc71113d3956f30bbf9.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i68.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0917/c3/6f819effb2275945616176c53a04e8c3.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i65.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0917/bb/27a5d42123e8adc769036fba408555bb.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)(http://i63.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0917/85/fe5207c1a190b71709eeea16c4eb5485.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)