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Chaos Corona for 3ds Max => [Max] Daily Builds => Topic started by: TomG on 2025-06-26, 13:59:44
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Hi everyone!
We'd like to know how many of you choose the option to use the old VFB rather than the VFB2. If you are using the OLD VFB, please can you make ONE reply in this post below (if you are using the new one, VFB 2, no need to post here).
In your reply, if you have the time, please let us know what it is that stops you from moving to the VFB 2, as high level or as detailed as you like and have time to write up :) If you don't have the time to explain why, just adding a post with "me" or a "." in it is fine!
I ask for the one reply as then it makes it easy to count the number of users - a separate discussion thread can be started by anyone who wants more conversational back and forth between everyone.
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We are still using old VFB
2.0 looks messy, The ui uses more space than before, icons are not very clear in what they do, the smiley face was useful,
There is a bug on the render elements tab where you cant use the mouse scroll wheel, you have to click on them to start using the scroll, then go any where else on the 2.0 vfb and it will work no more, one more click to start using it..
The bug where it will no longer resize the render when interactive is on and you change the window size.
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I went back to using the original VFB 1.0 because the VFB 2.0 interface is not clean, even though it has a lot of empty space. I often accidentally click on unwanted buttons. Another important thing is that the VFB 2.0 interface looks very bad. I'm not sure if you're following any design language, but honestly, it feels careless to me — even the Corona Picker is way too big compared to what’s necessary.
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in-between
don't like neither; basically both have their quirks; as C4D user, I prefer clean and simple UI/UX
also, holding down button to open menu and then releasing it on chosen action is just PITA
would really appreciate it, if you'd take 'notes' from "Picture Viewer" and ability to customize panels
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all i know, is that ever since i started using VFB2.0 - its more sluggish and less responsive than the older 1.
I like the UI - some quirks i dont like such as when i want to switch OFF all the lights in light mix, it prompts me - so annoying. it didnt do that previously. i experiment a lot with lightmix and different lighting and to always get prompted is less productive.
I also requested the ability to FLIP the image within the VFB - its a great way to refresh the senses..... PS i was told it would be super easy to implement by someone on the dev team but it still hasnt happened. it would be amazing if this could be added
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Yep, just prefer the spacing and clarity of the old version.
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I will never use that new abomination of a frame buffer. And the day you make it so I cant switch back will be my last in corona.
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I am using the old VFB not the VFB 2. I will use the VFB until 2 gets the fixes it needs, if that ever happens.
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Vfb 2 is buggy and useless to me
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I try the new VFB every once and a while, but keep changing back to the old VFB after a short period. My biggest problem are the new icons. For me, they are not self explanatory enough, and i'm using the tooltips all the time. That interrupts my workflow -> going back to what i know.
I really like the Vray VFB. The colored icons work really well and they use the more space of the UI. There is no need, to make it extra clean.
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Using the old one, the v2 is buggy on a separate monitor, it doesnt resize corretly and when you open drop down menus it shows up on the other monitor. I don't like the predfine zoons and the ui takes a lot of space
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As someone who has come back to Corona for the first time since VFB 2 was implemented and someone who never really used Corona beyond dabbling, perhaps my take is slightly more objective.
I must say that the icons across the top of the VFB are very unintuitive. I find myself having to assess all the icons and go through a process of elimination before I know which button probably is the one I want. Although this only takes a second or two, it breaks flow and in general lowers my productivity compared to VFB 1.
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Only been using C12 for a week or two, so been trying to force myself to use the new VFB2, but I find unfortunately everything about it a step backwards so will most likely switch back to the old one. Everyone's given the reasons here already for me mainly its:
1) zooming seems to show "noise" for a second before it disappears (some kind of zoom antialiasing issue).
2) UI layout with the text on the right is a bit messy, unaligned and oversized. Needs alignments and line separators.
3) the icons in place of text buttons is just confusing. Can't seem to commit them to my brain and always have to read the tooltip.
4) flipping between elements seems to take longer than before (might be false, will test more).
5) the same dev time could (maybe should?) have been spent getting the material editor/corona materials/maps into QT where we spend like 80% of our time (and active work time, not just passive time like with the VFB).
In general I'm all for a new VFB UI as I'm aware it allows for other important new things to work like Colab etc, but as long as it's with the above things improved.
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C4D - VFB 1
VFB 2.0 UX is a step backward and a insult to the users. All the issues should be clear by now.
Also, the inability to undock/resize the Curves window has been an issue since it was removed from VFB 1.0 — and it’s still missing in V13-VFB 2.0.
This isn’t about old vs. new versions; it’s about ignoring long-standing, basic usability requests.
To be clear, I’m NOT posting this in the hope that VFB2 will improve. I’m just begging you to not remove the old VFB.
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I still much prefer v1. Simpler and easier to read interface. I'm constantly in doubt on even what button to press for render vs interactive render in VFB2 hehe.
Being able to directly use the mousewheel to scroll through renderpasses in v1 is something I really miss in v2.
The rotating smiley, although a bit gimmicky, is something I didn't know I kept an eye on to see if IR was still going. I miss this too in v2 where I have to look at the render/stop icon on the right and it's not as clear.
In general all the icons in v2 look too much alike and are not self explanatory. I think v1 with icon+text works great. The ui in v1 is somehow more compact than v2 with only icons. I have to constantly hover over icons to see for a tooltip in v2.
Overall I see no reason what so ever to use v2.
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Are you planning to change it?)
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We are planning to make at least some changes to the VFB 2, yes, so the more details provided here on things you don't like, the better, as that will help guide us on what we decide to adjust this time around :)
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I didnt mind making the switch to VFB2 but after a couple months iv reverted and realised VFB1 just feels better!
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V1 clearly