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Title: Nature Living
Post by: V.virtualview on 2025-03-20, 12:11:57
Hey Guys, i created this image for my course at Render Camp!

What do you think?

Instagram: v.virtualview
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: CaptainST on 2025-03-25, 10:02:23
AI late stage?
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: Philip kelly on 2025-03-25, 10:25:27
Can you explain the AI comment, whats AI in this.....educate me, please.
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: aaouviz on 2025-03-25, 11:02:41
I think the commenter was asking if the original artist used AI enhancements on the image

This is a fair question seeing as the images are soo... amazingly beautiful and realistic.

I suppose it probably does use AI enhancements, but it's very subtle and well done if so.

Nice images in any case!
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: V.virtualview on 2025-03-25, 11:08:57
Hey, check out Render Camp on YouTube for the Workflow!:)

Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: romullus on 2025-03-25, 14:35:34
Hey, check out Render Camp on YouTube for the Workflow!:)

Sorry, but isn't it in your interest to give people the link to your course, instead of sending them to hunt for it on YT?
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: V.virtualview on 2025-03-26, 09:40:49
Hey @romullus, 

If you search for "Render Camp" on YouTube, you'll find their online workshops. In each video, their workflow is clearly demonstrated—it's impossible to miss.

I think it's always better to first see if you like the workflow before spending money on a course.
The final step that makes the image look so realistic is the fine-tuning with AI (Stable Diffusion).
However, it's important not to overdo it!
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: romullus on 2025-03-26, 09:52:25
Oh, i thought it's your own rendering course. No problem then, i will search the youtube for it then - i didn't touch stable diffusion for ages, since it kinda fucked my pc, but your images looks stunning, so i'm quite intrigued to learn how it was achieved. Thanks for sharing some info on your workflow!
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: dj_buckley on 2025-03-26, 12:51:49
Hey @romullus, 

If you search for "Render Camp" on YouTube, you'll find their online workshops. In each video, their workflow is clearly demonstrated—it's impossible to miss.

I think it's always better to first see if you like the workflow before spending money on a course.
The final step that makes the image look so realistic is the fine-tuning with AI (Stable Diffusion).
However, it's important not to overdo it!

Is there a specific video that shows the workflow you've used here?  Those workshops are all like 3 hours long so it would be good if you could point us to the right one rather than having to watch them all to find out :)
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: V.virtualview on 2025-03-26, 14:48:16
Hey, yeah, that's true—they're all quite long. The best thing to do is to watch them all to take in as much as possible! What's shown there is pure gold. All the videos follow the same workflow, so just pick one where the thumbnail best matches your projects or the one you like the most. The workflow is the same in every video. I wouldn't know which one to recommend because, as I said, the workflow is identical in all of them.

Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: Aram Avetisyan on 2025-03-26, 15:50:54
@V.virtualview

Hi,

Can you please post the before AI version (raw render) too? It is interesting to see both AI start and end points.
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: V.virtualview on 2025-03-26, 16:52:53
no problem, i posted the Picture "without AI"
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: maru on 2025-03-26, 17:02:46
It's really good without the AI too!
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: dj_buckley on 2025-03-26, 17:09:35
Hey, yeah, that's true—they're all quite long. The best thing to do is to watch them all to take in as much as possible! What's shown there is pure gold. All the videos follow the same workflow, so just pick one where the thumbnail best matches your projects or the one you like the most. The workflow is the same in every video. I wouldn't know which one to recommend because, as I said, the workflow is identical in all of them.

Interesting, the first few I've chosen to skip through, he just uses Magnific.  You mentioned Stable Diffusion so that's the bit I'm tying to find :)
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: dj_buckley on 2025-03-26, 17:18:33
It's really good without the AI too!

Agreed, the AI version just looks higher res
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: V.virtualview on 2025-03-26, 17:31:51
I know they often use 'Magnific' for that. But I achieved the same results with the Stable Diffusion inpaint model 'Realistic Vision'!
AI doesn’t necessarily make your image better—it should already be good beforehand.
Things like color composition also play a big role. AI just adds the final touch.

You can try Magnific—it definitely saves time, but it's very expensive!
That’s why it’s better to use Stable Diffusion with inpainting—just improve small 768x768 areas where needed, like plants or grass.
I’m not a Stable Diffusion expert either—there might be even more efficient approaches.
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: dj_buckley on 2025-03-26, 17:48:29
Yep I'm already using SD but always looking for better workflows.  I think they key here is that the base render is already awesome
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: V.virtualview on 2025-03-26, 18:40:37
@dj_buckley,

when you guys need more help or tips just write me on Instagram: v.virtualview :)
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: Philip kelly on 2025-03-27, 09:57:11
Is it just the higher quality image is the difference, as that all i can see.
Its Sharper?
Thank you.
Phil
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: romullus on 2025-03-27, 12:10:57
Is it just the higher quality image is the difference, as that all i can see.

For me the difference is very clear. Without AI the image looks good, but all the assets and materials, albeit high quality, but nonetheless have that CGI feeling, which is very hard to disguise by using traditional methods only. After AI treatment, the image looks much the same, except that now all the foliage and surfaces looks simply photo like. IMO that is exactly how AI should be used in archviz.
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: V.virtualview on 2025-03-27, 12:29:56
Im not sure if I uploaded the picture without AI in the same resolution like the other pictures... You can see the difference in the leafs for example.
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: Urbanjunky on 2025-03-28, 18:39:01
looks like AI just applied dehazing and sharpening effects. the base looks incredible on its own. i'd say this is 1% AI and 99% artist effort. good job!
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: dj_buckley on 2025-04-02, 14:10:44
I know they often use 'Magnific' for that. But I achieved the same results with the Stable Diffusion inpaint model 'Realistic Vision'!
AI doesn’t necessarily make your image better—it should already be good beforehand.
Things like color composition also play a big role. AI just adds the final touch.

You can try Magnific—it definitely saves time, but it's very expensive!
That’s why it’s better to use Stable Diffusion with inpainting—just improve small 768x768 areas where needed, like plants or grass.
I’m not a Stable Diffusion expert either—there might be even more efficient approaches.

Out of interest, what resolution was the final render.  Also when using SD are you using the WebUI or a plugin directly inside of Photoshop?  Do you use any Control Nets or IPAdapters or Loras, or is this simply using a checkpoint and prompts?
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: V.virtualview on 2025-04-02, 15:10:35
Hey, final Resolution is 5000px. Just the Standard Stable Diffusion nothing special:)
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: dj_buckley on 2025-04-02, 15:18:31
Hey, final Resolution is 5000px. Just the Standard Stable Diffusion nothing special:)

So you rendered at 5000px or was that after an upscale?
Title: Re: Nature Living
Post by: V.virtualview on 2025-04-02, 16:11:12
I render at 5000px