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Title: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: GabrielFP on 2020-02-04, 19:44:08
Hi everyone!

Goerlich is personal project I've been working for these past few months. This project started as a place to showcase some models I have done and never have the opportunity to use, but quickly evolved into  something bigger. I'm quite happy with the end result  and I just wanted to share it.

3dsmax, Corona renderer, Affinity photo, Dabarti capture

https://www.behance.net/gallery/91739793/Goerlich-Apartment
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: Designerman77 on 2020-02-04, 21:45:36
Super nice!

Great interior design, color grading, contrasts & lighting.
Pleasing to the eye.
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: Mr.Max on 2020-02-04, 22:44:44
Very nice work here !
I loved the mood here and the colors
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: vblackrender. on 2020-02-05, 11:23:49
Very natural looking images. I like the mood a lot u have choosen here.
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: subpixelsk on 2020-02-06, 07:29:59
Very nice, may I ask you why did you choose Affinity for postproduction and what was your workflow there?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: prince_jr on 2020-02-06, 19:46:56
beautiful renders!
how did you get the "broken edges" on the sandstone rock? i try getting this result for a long time. never came close...
i hope you can give some insight? 
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: GabrielFP on 2020-02-07, 16:44:21
Very nice, may I ask you why did you choose Affinity for postproduction and what was your workflow there?

Many thanks

Hi!
I'm been trying to make affinity photo may main post process program just for the ability to edit 32-bit images and clone in different layers at the same time (If I am honest I'm still more comfortable in photoshop). In this project there is no special need to use affinity. The same can be achived with photoshop as every image is saved from corona as a tiff 16 bits file.
My main workflow is very simple, just adjust highlight and shadows, play with curves and saturation, add some sharpening and vignetting and I am done.  The goal of the postproduction is to highlight the most important element of the image, so you can compare

Here you can see some images taken directly from the corona frame buffer.
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: GabrielFP on 2020-02-07, 16:47:29
beautiful renders!
how did you get the "broken edges" on the sandstone rock? i try getting this result for a long time. never came close...
i hope you can give some insight?

hi!
Just sculpting in zbrush and the displacement of the base texture did the rest
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: Designerman77 on 2020-02-07, 19:56:00
May I ask how you get this kind of lighting? Super smooth but nice contrasts, etc.
Corona Sky / Sun or an HDR?


Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: GabrielFP on 2020-02-11, 15:17:49
May I ask how you get this kind of lighting? Super smooth but nice contrasts, etc.
Corona Sky / Sun or an HDR?

Hi!
I attached a crop of the hdri. As long as you have a similar gradient in the sun you will obtain smooth lighting. The contrast is more post processing than the hdri in itself
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: Designerman77 on 2020-02-11, 15:32:25
May I ask how you get this kind of lighting? Super smooth but nice contrasts, etc.
Corona Sky / Sun or an HDR?

Hi!
I attached a crop of the hdri. As long as you have a similar gradient in the sun you will obtain smooth lighting. The contrast is more post processing than the hdri in itself


Hey Gabriel,

interesting, thanks!
Lately I was experimenting a bit with blurring out the HDRs for similar reasons.
Gives quite nice results.

Makes sense... blurry sun, soft lighting.


Continue your great work! Greetings.



Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: Designerman77 on 2020-02-12, 23:17:35
May I ask how you get this kind of lighting? Super smooth but nice contrasts, etc.
Corona Sky / Sun or an HDR?

Hi!
I attached a crop of the hdri. As long as you have a similar gradient in the sun you will obtain smooth lighting. The contrast is more post processing than the hdri in itself



Hey Gabriel,

I made a quick test scene (interior) with your "HDR"... First I did not even see that it is a PNG and not even an HDR.
What baffles me: it generates better lighting than the HDRs I normally use.... despite being a simple PNG.
And no, I don't use Corona 5, which works with any pic as a light source (as far as I read). I am still in 4...
Confused now...
 

P.S. I mostly use HDRs from here: https://hdri-skies.com

What HDR is the one you took? Guthrie or some other well known source?

Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: jms.lwly on 2020-02-13, 12:20:10
I've never thought about using anything other than an HDR... old habits
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: Designerman77 on 2020-02-13, 14:12:00
I've never thought about using anything other than an HDR... old habits


Well me neither. I thought that using a simple bitmap instead of an HDR in Corona 4 would result in a mess...
By mistake I inserted that PNG as a lighting source... and it looks absolutely okay.

Attached, a trivial test scene.
Render time: 30 seconds with some denoising. Can't see any negative difference compared to an HDR.


P.S. Visited your website. Great renders! That red room is crazy cool... among other cool stuff!
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: GabrielFP on 2020-02-15, 12:12:11
I've never thought about using anything other than an HDR... old habits


Well me neither. I thought that using a simple bitmap instead of an HDR in Corona 4 would result in a mess...
By mistake I inserted that PNG as a lighting source... and it looks absolutely okay.

Attached, a trivial test scene.
Render time: 30 seconds with some denoising. Can't see any negative difference compared to an HDR.


P.S. Visited your website. Great renders! That red room is crazy cool... among other cool stuff!


The png. format is because it is a screen capture jajajaja. But if it gets you better result maybe you are behind something here jajajaja.

I use only Hdri. I attached 1k versions of the hdri's so you can see the difference between the original and the painted. As you can see the original is pretty bad. All the highlights burned, no detail whatsoever. I blame my shitty camera and that it was my first and last attempt.

I think when you use a sky with a strong difference in exposure between the sky and the sun you will see the difference between hdr and png.
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: Designerman77 on 2020-02-19, 17:04:22
Hey Gabriel, thanks for your reply and the HDRs.

I was quite amused, too, as I normally also use only HDRs. Would have expected way worse results with a PNG as lighting source. :)))))
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: mutilo on 2020-02-19, 18:28:10
Super nice!

Great interior design, color grading, contrasts & lighting.
Pleasing to the eye.

and the fireplace is very beautiful and elegant. Congratulations again
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: Designerman77 on 2020-02-20, 00:27:53
Hey Gabriel,

I tested your HDRs - according to your screenshot... darkened / strongly lowered exposure.
Gives that nice soft light with neutral colors.
Hmmm... wondering why I have never tried to mess with HDRs like this before?

And one more thing we know now: cropping an HDR, so you have a nice big sun also gives that nice, soft homogenous light, most of us desperately look for.
Even if it´s a PNG in the end. :))))


In another post, some guy asked how to get a super uniform lighting in interiors. I guess this is the way. LOL

Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: GabrielFP on 2020-02-22, 21:40:56
Hey Gabriel,

I tested your HDRs - according to your screenshot... darkened / strongly lowered exposure.
Gives that nice soft light with neutral colors.
Hmmm... wondering why I have never tried to mess with HDRs like this before?

And one more thing we know now: cropping an HDR, so you have a nice big sun also gives that nice, soft homogenous light, most of us desperately look for.
Even if it´s a PNG in the end. :))))


In another post, some guy asked how to get a super uniform lighting in interiors. I guess this is the way. LOL

One thing I have always wanted to try thoroughly is to use a sunless hdri in enviroment and use a light with the texture of the sun. That way you can control the position of the sun, the intensity and changing the size of the light, the type of shadow. All this without having to modify the HDRi in PS.

I don't know if it would work well, since I imagine someone must have tried it already and we all still use unmodified hdri's, but I'd like to give it a try sometime
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: romullus on 2020-02-22, 22:34:32
What would be benefits of your suggested workflow vs HDRI + Corona sun? I think the latter would be easier to set-up, more flexible and would render faster.
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: GabrielFP on 2020-02-23, 13:45:35
What would be benefits of your suggested workflow vs HDRI + Corona sun? I think the latter would be easier to set-up, more flexible and would render faster.

I really don't know. Like I said, I've never tried it. I didn't say to use a corona sun because I never liked the shadow it produces, but maybe it's more practical with corona sun.
Title: Re: Goerlich Apartment
Post by: Designerman77 on 2020-02-23, 21:48:53
What would be benefits of your suggested workflow vs HDRI + Corona sun? I think the latter would be easier to set-up, more flexible and would render faster.

I really don't know. Like I said, I've never tried it. I didn't say to use a corona sun because I never liked the shadow it produces, but maybe it's more practical with corona sun.



Lately I tried (as a test) to light a scene with HDR and with Corona SKY + Sun as similarly as possible. It is well possible with very similar results, including similar sun & shadow.
Only difference, of course, the HDR has a more colorful light.