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Chaos Corona for 3ds Max => [Max] Feature Requests => [Max] Resolved Feature Requests => Topic started by: NiGol on 2013-09-07, 16:08:23

Title: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: NiGol on 2013-09-07, 16:08:23
the feature Request is Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map like "Colimo motiva" Do.
Colimo is a post-production tool designed with the main objective of changing scenes after the rendering process in real time without losing quality. CHANGE LIGHTS, COLORS Y TEXTURES

Using prerendered images as base you can change colors and textures and his influence on the scene including raytraced reflections/refractions and GI effect.

example video :
 
Title: Re: Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: Ondra on 2013-09-08, 15:16:39
anyone know anybody from there? I would like to know what are the exact technical requirements on the rendering engine ;)
Title: Re: Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: cecofuli on 2013-09-08, 16:00:07
Hi Ondra,
this is the website.

http://www.motivacg.com/en/colimo/

They are programmer for Thea Render.
I think this "Colimo" works with many different render elements join together.
But better is ask directly to the support.

I really hope you will can do something, because it's very good tool!
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: Naxos on 2015-12-14, 23:39:05
UP !
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: Ondra on 2016-11-01, 21:00:31
it looks pretty dead, dropping it from TODO
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: Naxos on 2016-11-02, 09:37:58
The feature request is not dead... if you clever guys could develop something like that into Corona would be a serious plus in the rendering-engines "war"...

Regards
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: NicolasC on 2016-11-02, 09:49:43
Colimo has existed for a long time now, and funnily enough, I don't know one person using it in production.
A bit gadget IMHO, nice to play with things like that when you need to output a few images, but I bet it becomes more complicated with real world projects. Certainly worth investigating though.
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: Naxos on 2016-11-02, 10:29:43
Colimo has existed for a long time now, and funnily enough, I don't know one person using it in production.
A bit gadget IMHO, nice to play with things like that when you need to output a few images, but I bet it becomes more complicated with real world projects. Certainly worth investigating though.

I can't agree, 80% of my work is web configurators, and so i have to output hundreds of texture / shaders variations in the same ambiance picture...
A working colimo would be a serious plus, for me and all 3D guys i know that have to work for those kind of projects...
Kitchens, Bathrooms, floors, wallpapers, furnitures, and even Billardstables (i'm right now working on a billards project)...

Ok, for architecture / short films, it can be a funny gadget, not for a lot of more industrial projects

regards
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: NicolasC on 2016-11-02, 11:14:19
Colimo has existed for a long time now, and funnily enough, I don't know one person using it in production.
A bit gadget IMHO, nice to play with things like that when you need to output a few images, but I bet it becomes more complicated with real world projects. Certainly worth investigating though.

I can't agree, 80% of my work is web configurators, and so i have to output hundreds of texture / shaders variations in the same ambiance picture...
A working colimo would be a serious plus, for me and all 3D guys i know that have to work for those kind of projects...
Kitchens, Bathrooms, floors, wallpapers, furnitures, and even Billardstables (i'm right now working on a billards project)...

Ok, for architecture / short films, it can be a funny gadget, not for a lot of more industrial projects

regards

Yup, I understand. That's why I ended with "certainly worth investigating though" ;)
In my CG friends, there's no one working on web configurators like you, hence my statement, really dependent of my own point of view. I'm just prudent with tools that look amazing on a YouTube video demo, but that are far less amazing once in production ... again, that doesn't mean there's nothing interesting to look :)
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: Naxos on 2016-11-02, 11:36:18
here is one of the projects i'm talking about (others are still under NDA) :

http://www.oskab.com/configurateur-de-style-cuisine (http://www.oskab.com/configurateur-de-style-cuisine)
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: NicolasC on 2016-11-02, 11:44:12
Cool :)
I understand your need of Colimo-style things now !
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: burnin on 2016-11-02, 16:33:46
Sadly niche product although very strong tool.
Some more helpful notes on the topic (to reconsider, maybe).
Foundry made it as a Colorway (https://colorway.thefoundry.co.uk/) (more on the VS Colimo situation (http://etereaestudios.com/blog/2014/07/about-colorway-colimo-chat-victor-feliz-motiva/)), also Arion has material swapping (http://randomcontrol.com/blog/object-based-render-region-material-swapping/) integrated since 2013 (v2.5.0).
(http://randomcontrol.com/images/blog/object-based-render-region-swapping.gif)

Note. Without such tools to apply in workflow or offer such service to clients, expertise & skill wise, proficiency with deep compositing is a must, which is not very common in archviz-biz.
IMO very welcome addition which can considerably cut down on production time, especially on the color/lighting studies.
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: Naxos on 2016-11-02, 17:29:51
Nice ones, unfortunatelly not for 3dsmax / Corona...
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: motiva on 2016-11-02, 19:09:22
It looks that you have said Candyman 3 times in front of a mirror!

Here is Víctor M. Feliz developer in Motiva, lets go step by step:

- Thea render, I'm not part of the team but just did the 3dsmax plugin and the Colimo related internals etc, also I work in other third party projects like Anima V2.

- Colimo is not dead but "production paused" I had the intention of release V2 last year its almost finished but some minors unfortunatly days have only 24 hours.

- We use it a lot in sites like www.awlandsundry.com (go to design part) also some well known companies are using it on its workflow, unfortunatly not a very generic workflow.

- I've spoke with Ondra sometimes to support Corona without.

- I'm finished my new 'toy' really really happy with it and fully Corona compatible.

Regards, Víctor
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: burnin on 2016-11-03, 03:04:37
Thanks for the info. Glad to hear you're doing fine.
Oh and totally forgot about Thea integration... sorry, my bad.
Looking forward to see what this 'toy' is.
Still finding RealCamera fun to work with, so if you had anything to do with, biig thanks :)
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: Fluss on 2016-11-03, 10:54:42
Couls be an awesome tool ! We need proper compositing passes to acheive this(proper diffuse filter, raw GI). Could be nice to have UV pass support to be able to tile some textures afterwards.
In fact the worflow is pretty simple, easily reproductible in nuke. We just need the right passes
Title: Re: Colimo Motiva - Change Lights, Colors, and texture with their Uvw Map
Post by: Naxos on 2017-03-08, 16:34:01
Cool :)
I understand your need of Colimo-style things now !

Here is my last project : imagine using a Colimo-like tool to tell : "hey computer, here is the folder with all my textures, please render all the pictures for me, please !"...

http://configurateur.billard-toulet.com/ (http://configurateur.billard-toulet.com/)