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General Category => Gallery => Topic started by: Juraj on 2016-12-08, 17:00:00
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Hi guys, lots of nice projects posted on forums these days, would like to join with few. This is project Veronika and I had done back in summer, using Corona using Corona 1.4.
We were given full freedom with this project, and had done interior design (to match the upper-middle class clientelle), styling, camera choices and photography. I wish we could have worked on the penthouses, but those were sold to foreign investors without need for images :- )
I will try to answer any question in bursts, some time ago started using ColdTurkey to block forums and lot of sites to avoid procrastrinating :- ) Highly suggest, heh. If you need faster answer, you can ask under FB post.
I will post two short making offs under this post.
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Behance http://bit.ly/SKYPARK (easier browsing experience here due to new full-screen mode)
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Short making off 1: (reserve place)
A short making of from the Terrace view. It's from the first Final version so there little bit of difference but I will explain what I later learned to do differently, but it's not much.
(1)This is raw render. You can see it's linear ( HL=1), with no post (there was none in version 1.5 of Corona). Looks pretty bland :- )
You can also see the HDRi visible behind glass has blue bellow horizon, not black. That's because I mirrored blue (and under-exposed) from the HDRi so I get little bit more blue colour bounce (like I would from the city streets).
(2)In 1.4 Corona version, I still used VFB+ to get tonemapping and little bit of color correction and bloom. I also use LUT which here is basically just little S-Curve.
I already do all of this in Corona framebuffer since 1.5 version.
(3) Most of the time, I don't maintain linear post-production, because I don't need to do any linear compositing (reflection pass,etc..) and because I already applied tonemapping and LUT in framebuffer.
So I used 16bit Tiff. 16bit to get more color bandwidth (to avoid banding and artifacts during post-production), and still get some dynamic range ( +/- 4 stops maybe ? ). I simply prefer TIFF compared to PNG or Targa as I find it works most seemlessly with alpha channel across every application. These days I use .exr even for tonemapped simply because it saves disc space (esp. for channels). Just that.
(4)I keep the base file as smart layer so I can always re-adjust my CameraRaw filter where most of my big post-production happens ( mostly curves and gradients ).
I add background as simple alpha channel background, but overlay some reflections onto glass using reflection channel and glass matID mask.
The other layers are just little local touch-ups.
(5)You can see I actually use "fake" lights from side and back :- ).
I don't consider them fake, this is something photographer would do with flash moving around (american style) to add some additional shadows and highlights in focal points.
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Short making off 2: (reserve place)
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Insane work as usual Juraj! The blackplate integration is really great - did you get them supplied by the client or are they custom?
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Insane work as usual Juraj! The blackplate integration is really great - did you get them supplied by the client or are they custom?
Veronika shot them from opposite building high-rise owned by competitor developer :- D It was done in silence.
One thing I learned...bring sunglasses if you plan shooting sunset/golden/hour....and jacket if you plan to stay shooting blue-hour and night.
I was blind and caught cold next day.
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Insane work as usual Juraj! The blackplate integration is really great - did you get them supplied by the client or are they custom?
Veronika shot them from opposite building high-rise owned by competitor developer :- D It was done in silence.
One thing I learned...bring sunglasses if you plan shooting sunset/golden/hour....and jacket if you plan to stay shooting blue-hour and night.
I was blind and caught cold next day.
Haha good stuff man, serious dedication to your work.
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The exterior ones are amazing, love the colors! Great work on the inside too, though I find the chair/champagne stuff looks oddly distorted. Enough to actually disturb the otherwise great image (top one). I wonder if this could have been avoided by simply moving the camera back, adjust clipping and lower the FOV? But I'm sure you have tried everything as I get it's a killer shot ;)
Great work as always you two!
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Good Jens, does an artist clip or change focal length (and stay inside real world walls) in exchange for some distortion. I think style choice plus the client wants a full view of the product. Juraj can you comment please. Composition may be the most quietly difficult challenge with Archviz we have unlimited choices.
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The camera was our choice, accepting the distortion. The camera is already behind (almost 2 meters inside wall) and this is as far as focal length/clipping would work.
Reason for that is simple, this is very small, oval shaped terrace. If you want to make it look grand, and focus on the view and general feeling, the space and how it's perceived is unimportant in comparison.
I know people in archviz are allergic to wide-angle and distortion, but they are tools to be used for architecture and are super common in photography. I just embrace it, even though it's on the edge often. And quite frankly, even if that might seem wrong or ugly to some, I like the dynamic of such perspective often :- ) At some point is simply becomes a personal choice, a willful breaking of rules, like over-exposure, another thing I love to do that constantly irritates someone.
Catalogues need few "hero" shots, not multiple 50mm charismatic shots for instagram. Even if they look better, it's not option sadly.. and I accept that, it makes sense. This shot needed to encompass the lifestyle offered by this apartment, the connection between all the space, grandness of something that's not really that grand... selling an illusion a little bit, basically...marketing. People looking to buy it, they barely notice what kind of chair that is or that bottle is distorted. The super wide-angle makes it sort of abstract.
This is not something I would do for project describing architecture. But we're not selling architecture here at all.
But don't take it my reasoning makes it right :- D There is no need to like it, just explaining my thoughts that go into this.
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Outstanding marketing piece. Sells the romance beautifully. Great tips juraj. ty.
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Outstanding marketing piece. Sells the romance beautifully. Great tips juraj. ty.
Funny thing is the client had different issue with this shot originally. This is the biggest apartment (3-room), I mean, if we ignore the giant penthouses on top that were not visualized :- D (Because it would be in Saudi Emiratis style...)
But we could only fit single chair into the terrace and the shot...the shot simply didn't look good with two chairs. Marketing guy was afraid people would think we're selling this space for single people (and honestly, it will be sold more to single rich people than families, despite whatever they claim).
The solution ? Put two glasses of champagne :- D
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night shoots have really nice colors ,congrats !
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I stopped commenting on arch-viz almost completely since it's all boring and generic lately.. but wow man, your work is simply so beautiful I couldn't resist not to. I could look at those images and admire them for hours. Attention to details and careful polishing of every single part of the image makes this one hell of a project! Thanks for sharing and keep being one of the best :)
Regards,
Tom
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Lovely night color palette and clean renders.
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As always awesome! :)
Juraj, How you did that contrasty sky (blue-orange) on main visualisation? It's just a HDRI?
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As always awesome! :)
Juraj, How you did that contrasty sky (blue-orange) on main visualisation? It's just a HDRI?
Which one exactly :- ) ? Most blue-hour shots are just blue-hour HDRi (but with mirrored horizon ! :- ) ) but the exterior one has additional cylinder with "fake" Hdri photo of backplate.
The next making of when I come back from weekend will be about that. It's crude and simple...but worked effectively.
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Hi Juraj,
great shots, great work!
This week I stumbled upon an awesome animation of the project. Did Veronika and you did this as well?
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As always awesome! :)
Juraj, How you did that contrasty sky (blue-orange) on main visualisation? It's just a HDRI?
Which one exactly :- ) ? Most blue-hour shots are just blue-hour HDRi (but with mirrored horizon ! :- ) ) but the exterior one has additional cylinder with "fake" Hdri photo of backplate.
The next making of when I come back from weekend will be about that. It's crude and simple...but worked effectively.
The one which is first on Behance :)
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The camera was our choice, accepting the distortion. The camera is already behind (almost 2 meters inside wall) and this is as far as focal length/clipping would work.
Reason for that is simple, this is very small, oval shaped terrace. If you want to make it look grand, and focus on the view and general feeling, the space and how it's perceived is unimportant in comparison.
I know people in archviz are allergic to wide-angle and distortion, but they are tools to be used for architecture and are super common in photography. I just embrace it, even though it's on the edge often. And quite frankly, even if that might seem wrong or ugly to some, I like the dynamic of such perspective often :- ) At some point is simply becomes a personal choice, a willful breaking of rules, like over-exposure, another thing I love to do that constantly irritates someone.
Catalogues need few "hero" shots, not multiple 50mm charismatic shots for instagram. Even if they look better, it's not option sadly.. and I accept that, it makes sense. This shot needed to encompass the lifestyle offered by this apartment, the connection between all the space, grandness of something that's not really that grand... selling an illusion a little bit, basically...marketing. People looking to buy it, they barely notice what kind of chair that is or that bottle is distorted. The super wide-angle makes it sort of abstract.
This is not something I would do for project describing architecture. But we're not selling architecture here at all.
But don't take it my reasoning makes it right :- D There is no need to like it, just explaining my thoughts that go into this.
Thanks for the reason behind it Juraj, I love hearing about the "behind the scenes" of your projects and not just the technical stuff. It's a business after all :)
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Beautiful.
That must be some high res geometry(displacement) on the bedding, since no shadow termination from the sun is present huh?
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Hi Juraj,
great shots, great work!
This week I stumbled upon an awesome animation of the project. Did Veronika and you did this as well?
But of course... making a plagiarization* of our own work is my favourite hobby.. : ( No, we didn't.. MOTIV did. Much to our surprise.
*(This project had no brief. We did everything, from choosing which rooms and angles to go, how the interiors and styling should look, to shooting the photography to match our intended look. There was no client feedback on these images, they are 100perc. our pure work. )
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Beautiful.
That must be some high res geometry(displacement) on the bedding, since no shadow termination from the sun is present huh?
There is turbo-smooth with Render Iteration=2. It is massive... Even that would not help with fine bump. Hopefully terminator can be solved as this workaround is quite ridiculous :- ).
The one which is first on Behance :)
I will post the settings from that scene. It's modified dusk HDRi (mostly bellow horizon) and warm lights. Quite standard fare though.
Did you check the small making of ? Lot of it is post-production. Maybe I could expand that section to include my CameraRaw workflow ?
night shoots have really nice colors ,congrats !
I stopped commenting on arch-viz almost completely since it's all boring and generic lately.. but wow man, your work is simply so beautiful I couldn't resist not to. I could look at those images and admire them for hours. Attention to details and careful polishing of every single part of the image makes this one hell of a project! Thanks for sharing and keep being one of the best :)
Lovely night color palette and clean renders.
Thank you a lot guys...it's very appreciated these days.
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I will post the settings from that scene. It's modified dusk HDRi (mostly bellow horizon) and warm lights. Quite standard fare though.
Did you check the small making of ? Lot of it is post-production. Maybe I could expand that section to include my CameraRaw workflow ?
It would be nice to see that :)
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But of course... making a plagiarization* of our own work is my favourite hobby.. : ( No, we didn't.. MOTIV did. Much to our surprise.
Damn, this is the worst ripoff ever. Why the hell did they even use such extremely similar assets, lighting, colours...? It's just nonsense.
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Fantastic juraj, your work always pushes the limits of quality Further and further, this is an example of profesionalism an dedication.
really an inspiration.
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What happen to support bar at top of glass rail.. I have customer who hates this chair height view blocking- take off and risk snapping the glass off ? No practical solution found yet for me as a builder.
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Thanks a lot Aldola.
What happen to support bar at top of glass rail.. I have customer who hates this chair height view blocking- take off and risk snapping the glass off ? No practical solution found yet for me as a builder.
It was in the way :- ) I wouldn't worry about the glass, it's 2x2cm glued together panes almost I believe.
Here is how it looked up originally, the details kept changing quite a lot... (The railing version with glass you see in Making-off was actually our mockup suggestion, we hated the original version a lot. I was surprised they went even more minimal).
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Lovely work Juraj and Veronika!
Attention to details is spot on, so is the ambience!
Maybe contrast is a bit surplus in dusk interior images!
Assume that the girl in external dusk image is 2D. Slightly less visible and close to each other reflections in pane might be better.
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Lovely work Juraj and Veronika!
Attention to details is spot on, so is the ambience!
Maybe contrast is a bit surplus in dusk interior images!
Assume that the girl in external dusk image is 2D. Slightly less visible and close to each other reflections in pane might be better.
You are correct. I am not very happy with that interior to be honest, and I am experimenting with different dusk shot lighting for interiors.
The woman :- ) was supposed to end up being 3D, but then I just moved on. Will experiment next time though !
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Wow..nice renders. I like the bedroom shots the most. The lighting and mood is just perfect.
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Short making off 2: (reserve place)
Very clean and spiffy as always. You and your Girlfriend are on another level. I inspire to deliver the same quality of work in the future.
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Short making off 2: (reserve place)
Also I find having multiple renderings sparks more intrest and does way better story telling than 1 or 2 full frame wide angle shot. I despise those unless they're accompanied by a collection of close ups like you have here and always do.
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Thank you guys.
Bit overstating, these days so many people are incredibly good, do you watch Behance ;- ) ?
I need to finish that second making off over weekend.
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Fantastic