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Title: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-01, 12:13:28
Rendered with Corona
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ondra on 2013-08-01, 12:28:59
trolling is an art!
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: racoonart on 2013-08-01, 12:29:12
Unless there is a good picture of a wireframe I doubt that this is rendered.
(If there is... congrats, you fooled me ;) )
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-01, 12:33:15
Better Still. Max Viewport
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-01, 12:42:15
trolling is an art!

lol Indeed it is,... especially when it is rendered ;)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: racoonart on 2013-08-01, 12:44:22
(http://i.qkme.me/3ph7ed.jpg)

holy! Very nice then, awesome work! :)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: nehale on 2013-08-01, 13:25:15
HAHAHA well done
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Polymax on 2013-08-01, 13:51:41
Maybe photo? or ....great render....I somehow doubt it )
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: vicnaum on 2013-08-01, 14:16:35
Please give the viewport from the exact same camera position as render. Now they are different, and some details are also different. I assume the initial photo is a ref.
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-01, 14:42:51
attached...
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ondra on 2013-08-01, 14:51:49
if you want a definitive proof, post unfinished render (after few seconds, with lots of noise visible), or post the original image under different lighting
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: maru on 2013-08-01, 14:56:02
Did I just shit bricks?
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-01, 15:04:32
if you want a definitive proof, post unfinished render (after few seconds, with lots of noise visible), or post the original image under different lighting

attached...
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Esperamus on 2013-08-01, 16:35:52
megaLOL... love this thread ;-)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Chakib on 2013-08-01, 17:14:24
Very realistic !
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: gabe on 2013-08-01, 18:21:52
Please, get a life...!!! AMAZING!
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Visual Pie Workroom on 2013-08-01, 18:35:26
O_O Mein Gott. Perfectissimo))
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Bigguns on 2013-08-01, 18:41:26
Holycow... just perfect :)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: jjaz82 on 2013-08-01, 19:19:19
Amazing work and smart idea :D compliments :D
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-01, 19:24:22
Thanx :)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: maru on 2013-08-01, 20:05:57
Already posted on Chaosgroup forums?
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: kumodot on 2013-08-01, 20:08:11
OMG. This put my "little subtle dust effects" on a shame position of horrendous giant dust particles. I am challenged. lol

    You´re the dust master. :) Particles ?

    Just amazing man.
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Realish on 2013-08-01, 20:15:33
This is super good.  The textures are perfect.  The details of the scratches on the metal and the plastic texture is spot on.  I had to look at it for a couple of seconds to realize it was indeed fake.  The only things that gave it away was the metal thickness is not as thick as it should be, the side you show with the plastic should have a metal seem down the middle of some kind where the metal meets after being wrapped around, the bevels for the metal on the sides are too small, the bevels for the metal at the end of the plastic are also too small, the plastic inside the holes of the usb is a strange color.  I pretty sure that plastic color in the holes is standard for every usb.  This is how to tell the difference between usb 2.0 and 3.0.  Every usb drive is also either retractable or comes with a cap.  Yours has no cap that will stay on it and it is definitely not retractable.  I only say these things in case you want to make it 100% real.

Still, it's one of the best photoreal renders I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-01, 20:20:51
Already posted on Chaosgroup forums?

Good Idea. Don't think I will be allowed though.
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ondra on 2013-08-01, 20:39:25
why not? There is a corona thread already :D
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-01, 21:35:04
where at?
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: theOrzel on 2013-08-01, 21:57:57
Nope nope nope... he made a pic and then 3ds max scene to fool us! :P


Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ludvik Koutny on 2013-08-01, 22:23:12
Could you by any chance render the same scene again where cylinder with emissive (glowing) material intersects the middle of the dongle, and then apply the same post processing as you did on original render?

I know it is not nice of us that we do not trust you, but your render just looks way too damn realistic :D
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Realish on 2013-08-01, 22:48:00
Rawalanche did you read my post.  It's 100% fake.
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Tylox on 2013-08-01, 23:09:39
100% fake ? it's jalousy speaking :) ? i'm kidding (or not !)

Inchiology : Congrats, it's just amazing. The plastic is amazing, i mean translucency, in fact everything is great :)
If you want to close the debate just put another render with another angle of camera...

Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Polymax on 2013-08-01, 23:18:37
What about this?
(http://clip2net.com/clip/m210717/thumb640/1375391836-clip-65kb.jpg) (http://clip2net.com/s/5uHltx)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-01, 23:23:33
What about this?
(http://clip2net.com/clip/m210717/thumb640/1375391836-clip-65kb.jpg) (http://clip2net.com/s/5uHltx)
lol bump map sir...
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Berjoyce on 2013-08-01, 23:48:21
Amazing work, the "micro dust" effect is incredible as said previously, you fooled me...
I guess we'll see this picture on the homepage gallery very soon ;)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: kumodot on 2013-08-02, 01:00:52
Inchiology is a chaosGroup guy that was sent to seed caos among us. lol
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ondra on 2013-08-02, 01:08:12
Inchiology is a chaosGroup guy that was sent to seed caos among us. lol
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/203/685/conspiracy-keanu.jpg?1321901003)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-02, 08:08:38
lol does this atleast qualify me for a licence when it goes commercial? pleeaase :) lol.
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ludvik Koutny on 2013-08-02, 08:38:55
lol does this atleast qualify me for a licence when it goes commercial? pleeaase :) lol.

First you got to do that glowing cylinder in the middle of model thing i proposed, then we will see :D
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ondra on 2013-08-02, 15:53:03
lol does this atleast qualify me for a licence when it goes commercial? pleeaase :) lol.
at least some discount, sure ;)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-03, 01:45:41
Another color... but animated:
www.inchiology.com/usb.mp4
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ondra on 2013-08-03, 02:00:31
the link is not working
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ondra on 2013-08-03, 02:23:03
working now. You should also make the version with a light intersecting the object, as rawalanche suggested, it looks just too good ;)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ludvik Koutny on 2013-08-03, 08:34:55
Why would you make video that looks like recorded? :D That actually lowers my trust... You should at least make it turning around in the air or something :)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: vkiuru on 2013-08-03, 11:46:44
Why would you make video that looks like recorded? :D That actually lowers my trust... You should at least make it turning around in the air or something :)

Come on man those physics are a dead giveaway :D that's CG.
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ludvik Koutny on 2013-08-03, 16:29:20
Why would you make video that looks like recorded? :D That actually lowers my trust... You should at least make it turning around in the air or something :)

Come on man those physics are a dead giveaway :D that's CG.

Yes, but you can't tell if its really that material, or just baked camera projection :)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Chakib on 2013-08-03, 17:48:05
The motion blur in the video is very weird, and yeah why doing a lightning speed animation like that instead of a turnable one for example ?
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-03, 22:43:05
Cylinder of Light:

Animation (low res render):
www.inchiology.com/usb_light.mp4
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Polymax on 2013-08-03, 22:52:16
and now you shall burn this dongle )
Perfect work!!! Congratulations!
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ondra on 2013-08-03, 23:18:56
oh wow, it looks like a photo even with the cylinder! :D
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Ludvik Koutny on 2013-08-04, 09:09:54
Yeah, i am ALMOST starting to believe it is not fake :D
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-04, 10:02:08
and now you shall burn this dongle )
Perfect work!!! Congratulations!

Now that Corona is here, I think I shall...
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: maru on 2013-08-04, 20:02:02
This image should really be used as some promotional material for Corona. It would be very appealing for THE MASSES. ;)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-04, 22:35:09
This image should really be used as some promotional material for Corona. It would be very appealing for THE MASSES. ;)

I agree... and the fact that it is a vray dongle... very edgy!! :)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Stan_But on 2013-08-05, 13:10:37
The best shot in corona on today. Congrats
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-05, 19:16:13
The best shot in corona on today. Congrats

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: alexisliza on 2013-08-06, 19:45:16
OMG... o___O
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-09, 12:58:15
OMG... o___O

some one please convince Keymaster to make this image an ambassador for the Renderer. Its very clever and challenges vray blatantly... He it got the attention of Sergio Meceres the Arch Viz Wiz :) (Owner of the actual vray dongle reference photo)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Ondra on 2013-08-09, 13:55:28
I might reconsider putting it on the frontpage, given the feedback it received. But in the meantime, are you sure you don't want to push it further, and put it in some bigger composition? ;)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: patoaltaco on 2013-08-10, 18:38:21
jaja what a compliment, some good artists, and even the code writer and creator of corona, thinking that is a fake. This is with out a doubt a compliment!.

good work here!!!
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-11, 11:35:34
jaja what a compliment, some good artists, and even the code writer and creator of corona, thinking that is a fake. This is with out a doubt a compliment!.

good work here!!!

Thanks
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: alexisliza on 2013-08-12, 10:37:03
OMG... o___O

some one please convince Keymaster to make this image an ambassador for the Renderer. Its very clever and challenges vray blatantly... He it got the attention of Sergio Meceres the Arch Viz Wiz :) (Owner of the actual vray dongle reference photo)

the render is awesome but not for commercials ( for me ), it's "just" a photorealistic render. not always a photorealistic render is the reference, for exemple I like much more the m&m's race image in the gallery. with this I think corona can make greats colorful render and compete with pixar renderman :))). sorry for the bad english
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-13, 09:17:59
OMG... o___O

some one please convince Keymaster to make this image an ambassador for the Renderer. Its very clever and challenges vray blatantly... He it got the attention of Sergio Meceres the Arch Viz Wiz :) (Owner of the actual vray dongle reference photo)

the render is awesome but not for commercials ( for me ), it's "just" a photorealistic render. not always a photorealistic render is the reference, for exemple I like much more the m&m's race image in the gallery. with this I think corona can make greats colorful render and compete with pixar renderman :))). sorry for the bad english

indeed the m&m render is amazing. I almost don't believe the render time :)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: yagi on 2013-08-13, 09:36:49
i think alexisliza is right....it doesnt feel commercial enough.  and i believe once corona is fully ready it should rather compete with the top dogs in the industry in this other from the best to the....vray :D
1, pixars render man. 2, dreamworks dream tracer. 3, arnold. 4, mental ray/iray. then 5, vray
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Polymax on 2013-08-13, 10:12:32
but not photorealistic rendering - this is not a difficult task and can handle any rendering, even Scanline.
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-13, 10:36:51
but not photorealistic rendering - this is not a difficult task and can handle any rendering, even Scanline.

Indeed...
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Ludvik Koutny on 2013-08-13, 10:44:58
i think alexisliza is right....it doesnt feel commercial enough.  and i believe once corona is fully ready it should rather compete with the top dogs in the industry in this other from the best to the....vray :D
1, pixars render man. 2, dreamworks dream tracer. 3, arnold. 4, mental ray/iray. then 5, vray

Not only you are very annoying person in general, but you are also quite wrong :P
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: lacilaci on 2013-08-13, 11:41:19
i think alexisliza is right....it doesnt feel commercial enough.  and i believe once corona is fully ready it should rather compete with the top dogs in the industry in this other from the best to the....vray :D
1, pixars render man. 2, dreamworks dream tracer. 3, arnold. 4, mental ray/iray. then 5, vray

1. Can't be compared, any renderman compliant requires quite a different workflow (to be effective with it) compared to vray/corona/arnold. It's a different world and it's all about approximation.

2. Even more different they build almost every tool for their pipeline for specific purposes...

3. anold is the one that should and could be beaten by corona IMHO.. But it'll take some time

4. this, in it's current state is no competition to any other renderer i guess. But hey, it's for "free"..

5. and vray.. well. might be viewed as competition now but to really compete with corona it would have to change from the get-go...
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: yagi on 2013-08-13, 13:40:38
lol at rawa... :p
when i lined them up in that order im not critisizing the renderer in particular but their possible preferences, interest and usages for product presentation, vfx, media in general etc to greater success. look into the market and u will see pixar has achieved the highest success rate with their renderer, producing top notch movies and animations every now and then...so is dreamworks and slowly catching up is disney. seen some mean ass arnold trailers(game n movies), alot of mental ray(about the most prefered in movies in my opinion) but havent seen vray(leaders in archviz at d moment). there are no licenses stopping vrays involvement, that i know of, in major theatrical visualisation/presentation other than archviz... except choice or budget which i doubt:)
its not the renderers capability squarely in discussion but the possibility of growing companies adopting the renderer into their pipeline to achieve the kind of career success the likes of pixar have. thats why i said n quote" when corona is fully ready". a promising example would the capybaras animation done on the front page....trully inspiring. more of that and corona mite be a sought after renderer for incoming companies of future prospect.
"i bilieve in coronas success rate is all i said and have said in a nutshell"
lacilaci-thanks for your analysis, it is noted
much respect to ondra and all the best.... peace
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Polymax on 2013-08-13, 13:45:13
Kennyisimi did you read the latest Pixar theses about their renderer? They have a very conservative direction! And this is a huge minus!
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-08-13, 15:33:22
lol at rawa... :p
when i lined them up in that order im not critisizing the renderer in particular but their possible preferences, interest and usages for product presentation, vfx, media in general etc to greater success. look into the market and u will see pixar has achieved the highest success rate with their renderer, producing top notch movies and animations every now and then...so is dreamworks and slowly catching up is disney. seen some mean ass arnold trailers(game n movies), alot of mental ray(about the most prefered in movies in my opinion) but havent seen vray(leaders in archviz at d moment). there are no licenses stopping vrays involvement, that i know of, in major theatrical visualisation/presentation other than archviz... except choice or budget which i doubt:)
its not the renderers capability squarely in discussion but the possibility of growing companies adopting the renderer into their pipeline to achieve the kind of career success the likes of pixar have. thats why i said n quote" when corona is fully ready". a promising example would the capybaras animation done on the front page....trully inspiring. more of that and corona mite be a sought after renderer for incoming companies of future prospect.
"i bilieve in coronas success rate is all i said and have said in a nutshell"
lacilaci-thanks for your analysis, it is noted
much respect to ondra and all the best.... peace

Disney? Pixar? ... ummm... lol

Vray is being used for more that Archvis....
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: alexisliza on 2013-08-14, 11:37:15
I say "just" because it's a very beautiful realistic render, but for me not interesting for a commercial use. Exemple: i know how difficult is make that and i say "wow! Amazing!", but a boss of an little advertising agency sometime don't know the work or not wery well, he might say : "ok this render engine can make realistic usb keys lol but how about a lots of trees for my architecture work? Maybe it's better purchase another render engine.."
It's just my opinion for this particular render, nothing more...similar of keymaster quote :

I might reconsider putting it on the frontpage, given the feedback it received. But in the meantime, are you sure you don't want to push it further, and put it in some bigger composition? ;)

I say renderman just for joke :)

baaaad english! Keep calm and enjoy corona render!
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: maru on 2013-08-14, 12:55:42
I say "just" because it's a very beautiful realistic render, but for me not interesting for a commercial use. Exemple: i know how difficult is make that and i say "wow! Amazing!", but a boss of an little advertising agency sometime don't know the work or not wery well, he might say : "ok this render engine can make realistic usb keys lol but how about a lots of trees for my architecture work? Maybe it's better purchase another render engine.."
It's just my opinion for this particular render, nothing more...

Remember Corona is currently in ALPHA stage. And even on this level, it's already gained a lot of attention and is able to produce good renders that can compete against commercial products in terms of speed and/or accuracy. I think what you can surely say about Corona is that it has huge potential, that probably won't be wasted.

Also, you probably can't have a renderer that is good at everything. As for now, Corona is great for interior rendering or product visualizations but it lacks the ability to render complex animations in short time. But it's mainly because of the way it works and maybe it will never be changed, it's Keymaster's decision. ;)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Ludvik Koutny on 2013-08-14, 13:08:02
Vray is a nice example of a renderer that is reasonably good at everything ;)
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: alexisliza on 2013-08-14, 13:09:57
I totally agree with you Maru
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: maru on 2013-08-14, 13:47:16
Vray is a nice example of a renderer that is reasonably good at everything ;)
Yes, but usually only if you use lots of biases and fakes. Or have a render farm.
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: racoonart on 2013-08-14, 14:15:29
As for now, Corona is great for interior rendering or product visualizations but it lacks the ability to render complex animations in short time.

VRays speed is mostly based on the fact that it just renders what is absolutely needed (reflection, refraction, shadow samples etc). And Vray has plenty of ways to optimize that to the limit.

Corona in contrast just shoots rays until the user decides to stop - that's why it totally sucks for Animation at the moment. The good thing is: You don't need to know anything about the tech behind corona to render nice images (which in a way is also true for Vray - all finalRender users know what I mean :D)

So unless Corona is really using all it's modern algorithms and stops doing unnecessary stuff when it does not add to the quality there is no way it can beat Vray in speed and usability for animation.
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: vkiuru on 2013-08-14, 16:14:21
Quote
Yes, but usually only if you use lots of biases and fakes. Or have a render farm.

Bias, fakes, yes a lot of tricks - none of which you could identify unless specifically mentioned.
Title: Re: Vray USB Dongle Rendered
Post by: Inchiology on 2013-10-10, 21:24:41
As for now, Corona is great for interior rendering or product visualizations but it lacks the ability to render complex animations in short time.

VRays speed is mostly based on the fact that it just renders what is absolutely needed (reflection, refraction, shadow samples etc). And Vray has plenty of ways to optimize that to the limit.

Corona in contrast just shoots rays until the user decides to stop - that's why it totally sucks for Animation at the moment. The good thing is: You don't need to know anything about the tech behind corona to render nice images (which in a way is also true for Vray - all finalRender users know what I mean :D)

So unless Corona is really using all it's modern algorithms and stops doing unnecessary stuff when it does not add to the quality there is no way it can beat Vray in speed and usability for animation.

Speed trumps all