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Title: early morning nature background
Post by: denisgo22 on 2016-02-13, 20:47:47
early morning nature background
posts are Welcome
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: romullus on 2016-02-13, 21:01:14
Water looks fake and thwt wooden bridge feels like a deadly trap. Other than that, very nice image!
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: denisgo22 on 2016-02-13, 22:41:59
thanks for comment
I try to adjust the water better...but
that's how it looks water in this situation and lighiting on natural photo
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: romullus on 2016-02-13, 23:05:53
I would try to add slight anisotropy to water material, to stretch reflections toward viewer. And i would get rid of that blurriness in lower part of image - reflection almost certainly won't get blurry that much, if at all.
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: Juraj on 2016-02-13, 23:19:03
Water looks fine to me, it can definitely get like this. If I wasn't on CG forum, I would never question the realness of water, but the plants ;- ).

The blurriness in water is always more noticeable closer to lens, exactly how motion blur works.
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: denisgo22 on 2016-02-13, 23:30:31
It's about grasses in the foreground.
you right, needs some fix with color///
thanks///
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: burnin on 2016-02-14, 02:20:57
Just a few notes. Love the reference, yet illustration still needs a lot to improve.
This is no simple scene to recreate, minimal though complex.
The obvious mistake is a non-consistent representation of reality, which in turn needs smaller differences, anomalies that are harder to compose:

Facts:
1. morning, breeze, low light conditions > long exposure + wide aperture = blur (for: waves on water, swaying plants / trees, moving fog)
2. fog over body of water is thicker at source (over water) and thinner above, as light makes it brighter from above so is ground albedo making it darker near the ground
3. probably a fine tuned post process using depth pass and luminosity mask will be needed to achieve better contrast in perceived perspective
4. less saturation & contrast on plants
5. some debris, leaves, twigs near & round the bridge

Photo shows 2/3 are a body of water to emphasize the calm, mild wake into the wonder of occupant life, reflecting slightly blurred as memories... in the end one wonders:"Who lives here? Will i ever meet them? Are they gone?" Winter is near by. No birds on the pond. Natural still life.

Just a penny of my thought
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: denisgo22 on 2016-02-14, 14:50:23
Some new fixes///
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: romullus on 2016-02-14, 15:28:30
Water looks fine to me, it can definitely get like this. If I wasn't on CG forum, I would never question the realness of water, but the plants ;- ).

The blurriness in water is always more noticeable closer to lens, exactly how motion blur works.

Don't think it has something to do with MB. It looks like author had tried to add DOF in post, but as it was many times discovered in this forum already - water reflection should stay in focus in such scenario.
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: Juraj on 2016-02-14, 16:01:30
I meant in reality. I know he hasn't used motion blur to make the effect, it seems combination of lens blur and material setting.
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: denisgo22 on 2016-02-14, 19:32:10
In reality this is sweating objective lens :)
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: denisgo22 on 2016-02-14, 20:40:19
Thanks Guys for post's, it helps me a lot///
Some PostProcess
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: fellazb on 2016-02-15, 01:18:29
I suggest to hide the pinkish bush on the right an make it more foggy on the forground.
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: karklinskarlis1993 on 2016-02-15, 09:59:29
somehow the very first version looks more realistic and natural for my eyes, imho
i would decrease saturation a bit despite of overcast lightning, as there cant be that powerful color gradients around the fooliage that way in that way of light
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: Nekrobul on 2016-02-15, 11:28:00
Here is what i think about this.

Actualy the first image was the best sofare.

Also you may try to stic to three chromatic collorgama.
Title: Re: early morning nature background
Post by: maru on 2016-02-15, 11:28:37
What a controversial thread. :)

My notes:
-diplomatic one here: the blurring of the water does not look physically-accurate, BUT to me it looks fine as an "artistic" effect - the whole image looks a bit painting-like anyway
-I like the contrast between the green hues of the grass and the reddish glow around the sun in the first picture - the next ones lack this effect
-generally it looks more like an in-game screenshot than a photoreal rendering - if that's the goal, then fine; if not, I would recommend paying more attention to details - as mentioned - some dead leaves/dirt/debris, more balanced colors and post processing, I would try with a dull, depressing, horror-like swamp look :)

update: added my attempt, I hope you don't mind