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Title: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: altadillj on 2015-12-16, 17:58:48
I'm glad to share the images I've done at rendertaxi for testing with Corona for Cinema 4D. The images are inspired by an already existing housing refurbishment project by Bach Architects in Barcelona. The paintings on the walls are by three great catalan and basque artists: Guim Tió Zarraluki, Amaia Arrazola and Cinta Vidal Agulló.

The images have been made with Cinema 4D R16, Corona A4.1 and Adobe Photoshop.

You can find more info on:
http://www.rendertaxi.de/en/blog/apartment-in-barcelona-with-corona-for-c4d/ (http://www.rendertaxi.de/en/blog/apartment-in-barcelona-with-corona-for-c4d/)
https://www.behance.net/gallery/32163353/Apartment-in-Barcelona (https://www.behance.net/gallery/32163353/Apartment-in-Barcelona)


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Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: Juraj on 2015-12-16, 20:13:48
Love the unique feel of this.

Also big props for using actual architectural cameras (wide angle and high) and not the overdone "atmospheric" 50mm lens 50cm from floor where I can't see shit outside of pointless couch close-up. It suits the space lot (looks wide and airy).
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: Image Box Studios on 2015-12-17, 07:17:37
Hi....Last image look very realistic.
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: Mr.Schorsch on 2015-12-17, 09:31:45
Hi. The Images all in all lokk realy cool. But the cameras are a bit strange. You have to much distortion on the Floor and furniture, wich is a shame ,because it would look much better without it. This type of cam is the Clients cam. "Show all, i don't want to pay for too many Images"

But still. Good Job, I like!
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: Juraj on 2015-12-17, 15:12:25
This type of cam is the Clients cam. "Show all, i don't want to pay for too many Images"

"Client's camera" (which can often be logical choice) would be standing in the corner, looking at 1/3 angle.

If you open architectural mags, or the vast portfolios of photographers like Fernando Guerra, this is the dominant way to portray architecture. It shows space composition, relationships, light. But not how sofa+windows look.
Distortion is completely natural and expected.
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: Mr.Schorsch on 2015-12-17, 15:28:47
Juraj_Talcik you are right. It is a common way to Show architecture and Relations in space. But for good reason, Lasse, you and some other viz kings, use other types of cams more. The ones with less distortion. Especially in interios it starts to look weired somehow, when the Sofa is streched to much. Maybe i am a bit over with this type of cams, because i was forced to do too much of them in the last years.
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: Juraj on 2015-12-17, 16:02:58
But I use this one in projects proudly :- ) I didn't always, but I gradually became comfortable after much studying of architectural photography mostly from my friends here in Slovakia.

I think there is a place for both, and the "wide-angle" look is needlessly alienated by most 3D guys because they had such a horrible experience with some clients demanding stupid angles. You yourself write:

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because i was forced to do too much of them in the last years.

So I guess this is where those feeling come from. But it would be like throwing baby with the water (ok I have no idea how this idiom gets translated lol) :- )

I always had this philosophy of doing both images that tend to relay more information, and one that focus more on feeling. Of course, each image needs to have both qualities, but in different ratio. And for architectural work, esp. commercial, I think it's good look when they suite the role and provide those informational views as well. There is beauty in practicality as well it's just tougher to find than in DOF-heavy close-ups of strawberries on table.
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: Mr.Schorsch on 2015-12-17, 16:42:58
There is nothing more to add. I totaly agree!
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: Freakaz on 2015-12-18, 09:03:30
Distortion is completely natural and expected.

Distortion is natural, yet it does not give any benefits for the image.  These distortions could have been easily eliminated with positioning camera further back, and turning on the camera clipping. 
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: Juraj on 2015-12-18, 09:38:23
No, there is definitely a beauty in that. After a point doing fakes with camera becomes needless hiding of imperfections.

Trying to overly stay within "acceptable" distortion never gives you the same 'airy/spacious' feeling as true wide-angle look does.
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: altadillj on 2015-12-18, 12:13:28
I am happy that this project sparked this interesting conversation on the composition and use of wide angles. By the way, I agree with Juraj's point of view.

Leaving that aside, I must say that the images were based on the premise of being as close as possible to the original photographs of the project that you can find on these links:

http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/001_AEB_Urgell.jpg (http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/001_AEB_Urgell.jpg)
http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/002_AEB_Urgell.jpg (http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/002_AEB_Urgell.jpg)
http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/004_AEB_Urgell.jpg (http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/004_AEB_Urgell.jpg)
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: Mr.Schorsch on 2015-12-18, 12:31:30
If you build after references like this, i would allways say it in the first place. For several reasons. First of all, the creative work of the photographer is somehow honored. (cam perspektive, propping, lighting aso)

Second reason. It defenetly helps in diskussions about cam angle and Position.
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: MGDesignUK on 2015-12-18, 12:32:03
I think these are fab images - well done. Especially liking the floor tiles!

Did you just use corona sun and sky for the scene?
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: lacilaci on 2015-12-18, 12:34:13
I am happy that this project sparked this interesting conversation on the composition and use of wide angles. By the way, I agree with Juraj's point of view.

Leaving that aside, I must say that the images were based on the premise of being as close as possible to the original photographs of the project that you can find on these links:

http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/001_AEB_Urgell.jpg (http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/001_AEB_Urgell.jpg)
http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/002_AEB_Urgell.jpg (http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/002_AEB_Urgell.jpg)
http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/004_AEB_Urgell.jpg (http://hicarquitectura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/004_AEB_Urgell.jpg)

that's a pretty good match!! I think shadows in renders could be just a little more prominent as they are in photos..
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: altadillj on 2015-12-18, 13:14:38
If you build after references like this, i would allways say it in the first place. For several reasons. First of all, the creative work of the photographer is somehow honored. (cam perspektive, propping, lighting aso)

If you follow the link of my first post you can easily get to the original photos.

By the way, you can find more great images of this great project on these websites:
http://annaeugenibach.com/2013/04/28/reforma-de-una-vivienda-en-la-c-urgell/ (http://annaeugenibach.com/2013/04/28/reforma-de-una-vivienda-en-la-c-urgell/)
http://hicarquitectura.com/2013/08/anna-eugeni-bach-reforma-de-una-vivienda-en-curgell-barcelona/ (http://hicarquitectura.com/2013/08/anna-eugeni-bach-reforma-de-una-vivienda-en-curgell-barcelona/)
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: Mr.Schorsch on 2015-12-18, 13:49:09
Ah sorry. My fault. I must admit, that i havn't check the op again. I should have done that. So sorry for that.
Impressive, how close you are to the originals. Btw. it was not ment offensive, more like a hint. 
Title: Re: Apartment in Barcelona
Post by: altadillj on 2015-12-18, 15:09:21
Sorry, I apologise for my bad command of english that it might have given the wrong impression and maybe seemed a bit too straightforward.

Thanks to all for your comments and appreciations ;)