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Title: blue Lk WC
Post by: pmcf1981 on 2015-11-16, 23:44:46
edit: user was banned for 30 days as a warning for violating intellectual property

This is old project done I think by with corona 1.0
tested with 1.3 made same changes (update new corona things)

as I recall rendered in half the time with new version...
(http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo21/polyvizteam/BLUE%20LK%20SCENE/render-1_zpsmlbagkhv.png~original)
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: denisgo22 on 2015-11-17, 03:47:59
This shower and bathroom is completely open,so everyone can see how someone washes?!
I recently received comments from /fLuppster/ and /Romulus/ about too low windows in the bedroom///
But it's even cooler!!!
where is it?
in the dark and the wild forests of Canada?




Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: pmcf1981 on 2015-11-17, 10:59:53
hi


tipical modern home we try to give plenty of natural light, big windows  but yes blackout need
hummmm mirrored glass  help ....
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: denisgo22 on 2015-11-17, 13:41:44
Or mirrored glass or a kind of blinds system, curtains...
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: vkiuru on 2015-11-17, 16:11:08
Hey nice to see you selling stolen models yet again! Speaking of which, will you already give me my refund and mods, why has this guy not been banned yet?

These baskets and flowers look familiar? http://3dsky.org/3dmodels/show/diekor_dlia_sanuzla_polotientsa_i_niezabudki

Nice looking flippers you got there, kinda like these: http://3dsky.org/3dmodels/show/novoghodniie_tapul_ki

Yeah I could go on all day long and I bet 90% of the stuff is stolen from others. Just to clarify to those not up to date, I say stolen because right now this guy is selling this scene on his website, the URL of which I won't mention here.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: romullus on 2015-11-17, 16:22:52
Hey vkiuru,
could you try to solve your problems with this guy by other means. I don't think that Corona forum is the right place to do so. I can understand your frustration, but it looks like your current methods won't help. I think by now most of forum visitors know that it's unsafe to buy from Polyviz, and i will take care that any links to illegal content would be deleted ASAP.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: vkiuru on 2015-11-17, 19:24:39
Hey vkiuru,
could you try to solve your problems with this guy by other means. I don't think that Corona forum is the right place to do so. I can understand your frustration, but it looks like your current methods won't help. I think by now most of forum visitors know that it's unsafe to buy from Polyviz, and i will take care that any links to illegal content would be deleted ASAP.

Well, he is selling his scenes consisting of stolen property prepared to be rendered with Corona so I think at this point with his business practice known, allowing him to promote his work on the forum with or without a link to the store, as long as the store in it's current state exists, is the same as turning a blind eye. So I'd say it's very much a topic tied to the forum but what conclusions are drawn are entirely up to the moderators and may or may not reflect on Corona. I'm sure majority of the users here won't notice or care in the slightest (yeah, he produces very nice looking renders and I'd enjoy them if the context was different) just as I'm sure many of the people who spent their time creating those models he is taking advantage of aren't all that happy.

That said, to be frank I'm not really using any "methods" trying to get him to refund what he owes me; 30 or so euros won't make a difference and it is fully apparent this guy has no problems ignoring any moral codes let alone copyright laws so I wouldn't really bother trying - I'm just using a given opportunity to wave a friendly "hi" to him every chance I get. But since you asked I'll ignore the guy from here on.

Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: denisgo22 on 2015-11-17, 19:26:25
than constantly reminded about it, better to make a good design from scratch.
Try, for example, to build itself design and models of all the furniture in your interior///
include decorations,books,flowers, and etc/
Or exterior view include bushes,trees,flowers,  peoples and etc////
Using textures and patterns from different resources also forbidden???

PS/ Tables, sofas, chairs is always the same, and similar to each other /four legs and a seat for convenience/
As try here to invent something new
in terms of design////
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: Nekrobul on 2015-11-17, 19:39:20
Using textures and patterns from different resources also forbidden???

If it is on terms and conditions.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: denisgo22 on 2015-11-17, 19:45:17
Yes, of course--- to hang out at in the interior portrait of Barak Obama, it is necessary to ask him for permission/
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: romullus on 2015-11-17, 20:14:17
Yes, of course--- to hang out at in the interior portrait of Barak Obama, it is necessary to ask him for permission/

I don't think so - he is a public person. But for sure you have to get permission from photographer who took this picture.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: EarthMover on 2015-11-17, 20:19:30
It's like music.  You can't sample even a small piece of someones music and then use it to make money in another song without paying royalties. 

You have no right to sell any models or textures with your scene that you didn't create yourself, unless you have a deal for paying royalties with the producer.  Period.  It's simple.

That being said, the scenes on his site are very nice and the lighting, composition and post work are some of the best I've seen.  He is an extremely talented at those aspects, but obviously chooses to fish for models to populate a scene rather then building them from scratch.  It's like creating marketing material for a client and using clipart instead of drawing in illustrator each piece.  If it's not royalty free clipart, you can get your client into trouble for using it without license.  Very poor business practice. 

Polyviz would be better to use his talents to produce training videos and supplementing them with the working files just being the blank scenes without the copyrighted assets, but with the lighting and render setup.  I think you would be okay to also include .PSD files of the finished renders including the assets  to show your workflow for post processing that particular scene.  All in all I think this is just as valuable, without the liability. 

Or, you need to be like Bertrand Benoit and sell scenes which are 100% of your own making. 

I hope you get it sorted out and can make money the right way.  The renders are amazing.  Good luck. 
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: vkiuru on 2015-11-17, 20:20:29
Yes, of course--- to hang out at in the interior portrait of Barak Obama, it is necessary to ask him for permission/

I'm sorry, I won't touch the subject but I have to try and correct this so there is no misunderstanding of what I was ranting over - denisgo22, the problem here is he is taking objects that others have modeled with the intention of earning a part of their living with them, and he is selling them as his own. Imagine for example someone buying Peter Guthries HDRIs and starting a website selling them as his own for a lower price - you do understand that would be illegal, as Peter owns the rights to his HDRIs? It's the same case here.

And with this explained best as I could in a hurry, I'm out of the thread and won't intrude again.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: Tanakov on 2015-11-17, 22:42:12
The thing I hate the most in your renders is that they look so good. ;)

I hate to say It but some of your works are really awesome.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: Marvey on 2015-11-18, 01:48:50
Hey nice to see you selling stolen models yet again! Speaking of which, will you already give me my refund and mods, why has this guy not been banned yet?

These baskets and flowers look familiar? http://3dsky.org/3dmodels/show/diekor_dlia_sanuzla_polotientsa_i_niezabudki

Nice looking flippers you got there, kinda like these: http://3dsky.org/3dmodels/show/novoghodniie_tapul_ki

Yeah I could go on all day long and I bet 90% of the stuff is stolen from others. Just to clarify to those not up to date, I say stolen because right now this guy is selling this scene on his website, the URL of which I won't mention here.


i would just love to see 3dsky to follow the rules too, what i mean is 3dsky accept everytday many stolen models, some of them are just a bit modified... so taking on 3dsky exemple is not a good choice mate... 3dsky is the Paradise of stolen models!
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: romullus on 2015-11-18, 08:36:07
Stealing from the thief doesn't make you legit, you know. Can we end this discussion for now? It's leading nowhere.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: fLuppster on 2015-11-18, 10:26:22
Could this guy just get banned here? Or why on earth are we providing him a platform to promote his illegal activities? Just asking... i dont get it.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: romullus on 2015-11-18, 10:44:29
It's not for me to decide who gets banned and who's not, but as far as i'm aware, pmcf1981 is not promoting anything, he's just showing hes renderings.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: Fritzlachatte on 2015-11-18, 13:31:00
In other threads he is promoting his stuff, but banning him would be really rough. ( I would be missing his nice renderings)
Maybe just deleting links to his store would be enough to achieve inner peace of justice?!
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: Ondra on 2015-11-18, 13:44:36
We will make sure there are absolutely no links or even indication to selling stolen content from him.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: Design at Sketch on 2015-11-19, 19:21:04
This is a total Rip off of a scene I made 3 years ago !!!!


Anyway sounds like he's made himself very popular !



www.designatsketch.com









Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: Nekrobul on 2015-11-19, 21:57:20
I think i just changed my mind...

The guy is just shameless, i guess we need something like this here.

(http://i.imgur.com/8eMaB.jpg)
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: vkiuru on 2015-11-19, 22:50:49
Hey nice to see you selling stolen models yet again! Speaking of which, will you already give me my refund and mods, why has this guy not been banned yet?

These baskets and flowers look familiar? http://3dsky.org/3dmodels/show/diekor_dlia_sanuzla_polotientsa_i_niezabudki

Nice looking flippers you got there, kinda like these: http://3dsky.org/3dmodels/show/novoghodniie_tapul_ki

Yeah I could go on all day long and I bet 90% of the stuff is stolen from others. Just to clarify to those not up to date, I say stolen because right now this guy is selling this scene on his website, the URL of which I won't mention here.


i would just love to see 3dsky to follow the rules too, what i mean is 3dsky accept everytday many stolen models, some of them are just a bit modified... so taking on 3dsky exemple is not a good choice mate... 3dsky is the Paradise of stolen models!

Seeing as this has been allowed to go on I take it I'm no exception and again I won't insult the guy himself but would like to reply to above quote since Marvey addressed me specifically.

What you are confusing are two different things. A poorly organised marketplace does not make all the vendors thieves. They are there representing themselves so yes me linking to models the OP stole from a vendor who is clearly selling his own products (very easy to conclude if you just look at many_jjjs overall contributions and the similar quality) is perfectly valid. Or if you think many_jjj sells models made by someone else than him/her, please feel free to prove me wrong. You won't find those in an Evermotion library or any other for that matter.

This is a total Rip off of a scene I made 3 years ago !!!!


Anyway sounds like he's made himself very popular !



www.designatsketch.com

lol color me surprised, I understand modeling a space after an inspiring reference image but pmcf1981 can't even place a pirated 3D model of a towel without ripping the general location for it from someone elses work. Dude's a work of art and yes I agree keep him around even though he is bad rep by any logic.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: mitviz on 2015-11-20, 04:37:10
hahaha, its crazy
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: tomislavn on 2015-11-20, 08:01:33
This is a total Rip off of a scene I made 3 years ago !!!!

Anyway sounds like he's made himself very popular !

www.designatsketch.com

Oh my sweet Jesus :O it is like 1:1.... what a shame.... :(
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: mitviz on 2015-11-20, 08:05:27
its not the same model actually but a compliment to the artist who did it first?
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: Design at Sketch on 2015-11-20, 10:08:52
We made this scene around 3 years ago along with a few other renders from the same building.  We were all laughing about it in the studio this morning as I actually bought some scenes from this guy a month ago, never again hahahha.

If we weren't so busy at the moment I would convert the scene and give it away maybe we will soon.
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: pmcf1981 on 2015-11-20, 10:43:13

I'm so sorry . we are inspired by the photos in the scenes , just photos .
but apparently this is a render.

I think at the time we saw this picture on pinterest,

Apologies Design at Sketch  congratulations for the best pictures I have ever seen.

the scene was removed from our site...
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: vkiuru on 2015-11-20, 14:51:24

I'm so sorry . we are inspired by the photos in the scenes , just photos .
but apparently this is a render.

I think at the time we saw this picture on pinterest,

Apologies Design at Sketch  congratulations for the best pictures I have ever seen.

the scene was removed from our site...

Nice, you have talent and could easily create excellent original content so I'd love seeing more of your stuff.. if you'd just rely on selling self made models!
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: Ondra on 2015-11-20, 16:36:07
"pmcf1981" was banned for 30 days for repeatedly stealing IP. This is the last warning before permanent ban
Title: Re: blue Lk WC
Post by: Design at Sketch on 2015-12-02, 09:34:22
I notice the scene is STILL for sale on his site, this guy is unbelievable !!