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Chaos Corona for 3ds Max => [Max] Feature Requests => Topic started by: artofcharly on 2020-09-05, 13:38:36

Title: Ornatrix alembic render
Post by: artofcharly on 2020-09-05, 13:38:36
Hi, dear developers.

Ornatrix alembic doesn't render in Corona Renderer. =) Please add this feature





Scene -> https://bit.ly/3lUAWK4

Thank you and have a great day
Best regards,
Andrew.
Title: Re: Ornatrix alembic render
Post by: maru on 2020-11-13, 13:18:38
Hi Charly, sorry for the delay.
Unfortunately I will need a bit of help here.

I tried opening your scene and following your steps, and it seems that:
1) The hair does not render at all if the "mesh from strands" modifier is disabled
2) The hair does render fine if the "mesh from strands" modifier is enabled
It is the same with Corona and V-Ray.
I tested with Corona 6 HF1 and the 06.11 daily build, V-Ray 5 HF2, and Ornatrix 6.3.5 and 7.1.0.

My questions:
Is point 1 not expected?
Is point 2 expected?
What exactly is wrong?

Next time, it would be great if you could provide a scene which we can just open, press render, and immediately see the issue. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Ornatrix alembic render
Post by: artofcharly on 2020-12-26, 15:01:43
Hi Charly, sorry for the delay.
Unfortunately I will need a bit of help here.

I tried opening your scene and following your steps, and it seems that:
1) The hair does not render at all if the "mesh from strands" modifier is disabled
2) The hair does render fine if the "mesh from strands" modifier is enabled
It is the same with Corona and V-Ray.
I tested with Corona 6 HF1 and the 06.11 daily build, V-Ray 5 HF2, and Ornatrix 6.3.5 and 7.1.0.

My questions:
Is point 1 not expected?
Is point 2 expected?
What exactly is wrong?

Next time, it would be great if you could provide a scene that we can just open, press render, and immediately see the issue. Thanks in advance!

Hi, Maru

No problem =) I just see this message =) Sorry for the delay too =)

So, in V-Ray, I can render this object without MeshFromSTrands and this is the right way. MeshFromSTrands convert all the hair to mesh and as a result, we have polygons, not particles and this will slow down the viewport and the render. Ornatrix particles optimized to render the hair fast and V-Ray supports this. Corona supports an Ornatrix object, but if we will export it to Alembic, V-RAy can render this alembic, but Corona can't. Just only with MeshFromStrands which is bad for speed =)

I can't prepare the Corona Scene, because I haven't a Corona License now =) It expired and I did not renew it, because now I don't use Corona in my projects.

Thank you and have a great day
Best regards,
Andrew.
Title: Re: Ornatrix alembic render
Post by: rowmanns on 2021-01-13, 16:47:37
Hi,

Alembic support for the CoronaProxy object has been requested previously by you: https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?topic=30697.0

It is logged in our system and in our pool of ideas :) however I am unable to give you any timescale on when this might happen.

Just a note, requesting the same thing many times will not speed up the implementation of a feature ;)

Cheers,

Rowan

(Internal ID=562239127)
Title: Re: Ornatrix alembic render
Post by: artofcharly on 2021-11-21, 14:08:51
Hi,

Alembic support for the CoronaProxy object has been requested previously by you: https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?topic=30697.0

It is logged in our system and in our pool of ideas :) however I am unable to give you any timescale on when this might happen.

Just a note, requesting the same thing many times will not speed up the implementation of a feature ;)

Cheers,

Rowan

(Internal ID=562239127)

You not right. Because this is not the same feature =)

We can't add Ornatrix modifiers to Corona Proxy + Alembic. In that thread, I asked specifically to work with proxies. Now I'm asking for a render with Alembic =) That's a big difference.

Because Alembic like a simple hair with which we can work in ORnatrix - comb hair and etc.

Corona Proxy + Alembic - just for render =) (that thread and request)
Title: Re: Ornatrix alembic render
Post by: LevTrockiy on 2021-11-21, 15:23:01
I agree with art of Charlie, it's really very necessary!
Title: Re: Ornatrix alembic render
Post by: dmytromes on 2021-12-04, 14:15:10
Hey guys! I agree with Charlie too, it will be a very helpful tool!
Title: Re: Ornatrix alembic render
Post by: artofcharly on 2022-01-02, 15:31:20
Hey, guys
Any news?
Title: Re: Ornatrix alembic render
Post by: artofcharly on 2023-02-05, 13:36:46
Hi, dear developers. Any news?
Title: Re: Ornatrix alembic render
Post by: rowmanns on 2023-02-06, 09:51:21
Hi,

Sorry no update here as of yet.

Rowan