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Which is better (less noise)

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28 (82.4%)
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6 (17.6%)

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Author Topic: Experiment: Noise levels  (Read 12742 times)

2014-09-16, 18:45:22
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Siahpoosh

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look at this

2014-09-16, 18:54:59
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elindell

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1 also feels cleaner if I scrub back and forth between them, but honestly just eyeballing it they look of equal noisiness

2014-09-16, 19:44:40
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I think the two images are extremely similar in terms of noise but if I had to choose, I would pick #1. Looks like it has (at least perceptually) less noise in the direct lighted area near the window. But I wouldn't be surprised if Keymaster was testing us and the two images were identically noisy. ;)
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2014-09-16, 19:55:54
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#1 is less noisy. It uses one trick from recent paper about sampling. It will be probably included in daily build soon
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2014-09-16, 20:23:39
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"LtWCJTK.png" is marginally noisier. I measured. It's something like 2.4 % more noisy.

edit: So that's image 1 that's cleaner.
How did you measure it without the reference image? If you have some reliable metric for estimating noise tell me, I can use it for adaptivity ;)
Maybe this could help :
http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/rbf/CVonline/LOCAL_COPIES/VELDHUIZEN/node18.html

2014-09-16, 20:29:17
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I can see that the first image had a liiiittle bit less noise  than the second one, especially on the back of the chair.

2014-09-16, 20:38:30
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Well, I guess I'm going blind. I really struggled to make out much overall difference. I think I need glasses!

2014-09-16, 20:50:35
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#1 is less noisy

2014-09-16, 23:11:02
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juang3d

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Awesome :D

Will this make the images look cleaner sooner?

Cheers

2014-09-17, 00:29:38
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Maybe... are you working also on "noise pattern flickering" problem?  =^___^=

2014-09-17, 09:25:50
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"LtWCJTK.png" is marginally noisier. I measured. It's something like 2.4 % more noisy.

edit: So that's image 1 that's cleaner.
How did you measure it without the reference image? If you have some reliable metric for estimating noise tell me, I can use it for adaptivity ;)
I just measured the maximum deviance between each pixels and its neighbours. It doesn't work for calculating the error in a single image (you need the reference image for that), but it works for checking which of two images have the greater variance.

2014-09-17, 09:49:59
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try to reduce the noise putting 50 ies or tiny emitters inside the room.

2014-09-17, 11:17:45
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#1 is less noisy. It uses one trick from recent paper about sampling. It will be probably included in daily build soon
There is a very simple way to tell what image has less noise: File size for the PNG!
PNGs are super mega sensible to noise vs filesize ratio.

2014-09-17, 13:31:03
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try to reduce the noise putting 50 ies or tiny emitters inside the room.

Can you explain better?

2014-09-28, 15:39:31
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try to reduce the noise putting 50 ies or tiny emitters inside the room.
Yes it would be interesting to know more