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2019-11-22, 11:48:55
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Maybejensen

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Finally the wait for 3950X is over.
So here's is my setup at the moment, I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions on it.

CPU
AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
900€

MB
ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS/
250€

Or should I go with PCie3 ASROCK Taichihttps://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470%20Taichi/index.asp ?
Since there is no obvious advantade over the PCie4 boards at the moment.

RAM
64GB (2x32GB) https://www.adata.com/us/orderinfo/483
This leaves to slots open for possible upgrade to 128GB
300€

GPU
Used 1080 ti
500€

HEATSINK
NOCTUA NH-D15 chromax.black https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15-chromax-black
100€


best,
matej

That's very similar to the build I'm doing. The only difference is the GPU (RTX 2080 Super).
Still unsure about the motherboard, my colleague is urging me to get the super expensive GIGABYTE X570 AORUS XTREME https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10#kf
Something about gigabyte investing heavily into making sure Ryzen is super stable. I might be inclined to get it if what he says has any truth to it.
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2019-11-22, 12:16:16
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Regarding boards for 3950X, you can compare them here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/htmlview#gid=2112472504

The choice between X470 & X570 is mostly about how long-term you plan this as workstation. The price difference isn't that big, so I would just go with X570.

With the above suggestion to buy top-tier Gigabyte... if you enjoy wasting money maybe. 16+3 power phases are nice, but we are talking 16-core Ryzen, not 32+ core Threadripper. It's waste of money in every single way. 700 Euro boards for 900 Euro chip ? My top-level 2990WX boards were 600 Euro (both with 16+ power phases).

Entry level Asus boards are good choice because they have all good VRM, STRIX-E, TUF,..They have 6 doublers (12 power stages), or 6 doublers + 2 PCH power stages. Basically 12 or 14 power stages, more than enough for 3950X.

For 32GB memory dimms, I would buy the Corsair Kit. Buy the 3000 CL15 2x32GB, it's the best rated option available. In future, when you buy another, it's questionable if it will be able to run at 3000 CL15 as well..but it's still the only choice you have.

My choice for suggesting used 1080ti still stands. I recently upgraded every workstation we have with Quadro RTX 5000 because we need 16GB Vram in office...FOR VIEWPORT ! :- O so I can't image living with 8GB. And surprise..the viewport is same speed as 1080ti (RTX 5000 is equivailent of 2080 non-Ti).
So until GeForce 3080ti with 16GB memory comes along, the current choice is waste of money outside of GPU rendering. If you do GPU rendering, get 2080ti, but non-ti versions (basic and super) are poor choice. 8GB is too little for anything, I can eat that up in Photoshop alone.
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2019-11-22, 22:48:03
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2019-12-05, 09:07:47
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Regarding boards for 3950X, you can compare them here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/htmlview#gid=2112472504

The choice between X470 & X570 is mostly about how long-term you plan this as workstation. The price difference isn't that big, so I would just go with X570.

With the above suggestion to buy top-tier Gigabyte... if you enjoy wasting money maybe. 16+3 power phases are nice, but we are talking 16-core Ryzen, not 32+ core Threadripper. It's waste of money in every single way. 700 Euro boards for 900 Euro chip ? My top-level 2990WX boards were 600 Euro (both with 16+ power phases).

Entry level Asus boards are good choice because they have all good VRM, STRIX-E, TUF,..They have 6 doublers (12 power stages), or 6 doublers + 2 PCH power stages. Basically 12 or 14 power stages, more than enough for 3950X.

For 32GB memory dimms, I would buy the Corsair Kit. Buy the 3000 CL15 2x32GB, it's the best rated option available. In future, when you buy another, it's questionable if it will be able to run at 3000 CL15 as well..but it's still the only choice you have.

My choice for suggesting used 1080ti still stands. I recently upgraded every workstation we have with Quadro RTX 5000 because we need 16GB Vram in office...FOR VIEWPORT ! :- O so I can't image living with 8GB. And surprise..the viewport is same speed as 1080ti (RTX 5000 is equivailent of 2080 non-Ti).
So until GeForce 3080ti with 16GB memory comes along, the current choice is waste of money outside of GPU rendering. If you do GPU rendering, get 2080ti, but non-ti versions (basic and super) are poor choice. 8GB is too little for anything, I can eat that up in Photoshop alone.

My thoughts exactly. I will be going with the Asus Crosshair VIII Hero, I put in an order for the chip yesterday, hoping for delivery at the beginning of January.
We were just given a rather large animation case with a lot of moving people and about 60-90 seconds of film. Decided it was time for a workstation upgrade/christmas present for myself.
I'll let you know how it runs once i get it! Thanks for the RAM recommendation, I'll get those too thanks a lot
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2021-03-19, 21:00:34
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Hey peeps!
I'm very happy with my purchase, thanks again for all the help.
However I got a bit lazy with purchasing a new graphics card.

I have an offer for 1080ti (650€) on the table.
Or should I wait for the new rtx3080ti ?

I render ONLY on cpu, so I only need it for the best possible viewport efficiency.
Should I wait or get the 1080ti? What are your thoughts?!

Thanks
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2021-03-20, 08:30:46
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Holy shit even 1080ti is now 650 Euro :- D Crazy times.

I kept advising people to buy this card second hand for 300 bucks for past three years :- ). And suddenly the value is doubled..

Well the average sold price for 3080 (current non-TI) version is 2000 Euros... and the Ti will not be cheaper since nVidia royally screwed the whole "crypto-blocker".
You might be waiting until 2022... unless miracle happens.

3dsMax viewport is almost the same regardless of your GPU performance. Most important attribute is simply to never run out of GPU VRAM. (Mostly by using viewport texture resolution higher than 2k and having more than 1 scene opened).
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2021-03-20, 09:37:15
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Yes, crazy times indeed :) And they even go way higher on german ebay.
Considering times, I guess 1080ti isn't a bad buy then, for cinema4d viewport performance. Especially considering 1080ti has 11GB, which is a significant boost compared to my 1GB :)

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2021-03-21, 17:02:36
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I suppose a good buy right now for someone who just needs the GPU for running the viewport and not rendering, would be a 3060 with its 12gb of ram. Depending on the market they run around 750-1000 euros.
If you can get your hands on one that is not more than 800 euros I guess it would be a better buy than a used 1080ti. Again it depends on how well you know the history of the used card you are buying. If you are not sure I would just invest 100-200 euros more for a new 3060 for which you get a warranty as well.

Prices are just crazy right now and I don't think they will go down yet. At least not for the next month or two. People are selling 1080ti's that have been mining for 4 years straight and they are asking like 650-850 euros for it... Crazyyyyy! :)
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