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Title: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: fabio81 on 2022-04-15, 15:30:39
hi guys!
i was trying Corona scattering very fast great job !!
I was following some tutorials to combine it with the Corona Distance but I noticed that the slot in the Surface scattering tab is missing to be able to insert the material with the Corona Distance.
has something changed?
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: TomG on 2022-04-15, 16:27:18
Well, what changed is that this is brand new in C4D :) As such some one or two things that are in Max have not yet made their way over to C4D as yet, just due to the scale of the task.

Most of the effects should be achievable using the Scale transform (scale 0 is the same as not showing up :) ), or using the improved area controls to include or exclude using objects or open/closed splines. Indeed the biggest use of Distance into Scatter was to do things like carve paths through the scatter, but this can now be done directly using the spline include/excludes cutting out the extra step and processing.
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: fabio81 on 2022-04-16, 20:14:26
ok got it thanks :)
Another thing is that I'm trying to figure out how to create a more jagged effect using textures in the transaltion slot. What textures should be put? because the greyscale procedural I understand that they don't work
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: Cinemike on 2022-04-16, 20:46:34
May I point you to this:
https://support.chaos.com/hc/en-us/articles/4953600578065

A question: What exactly do you mean with "jagged" and why do you want to use the noise in Translation and not in Scale?
Just curious.

And yes, grey-scale noises work.

PS
Distance shaders do work there (as scale maps), too.
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: fabio81 on 2022-04-16, 21:09:09
May I point you to this:
https://support.chaos.com/hc/en-us/articles/4953600578065

A question: What exactly do you mean with "jagged" and why do you want to use the noise in Translation and not in Scale?
Just curious.

And yes, grey-scale noises work.

PS
Distance shaders do work there (as scale maps), too.

hi Cinemike!
thanks for the example you posted. Yes, in fact the shader works and I figured out how to get the desired effect through the texture in the Scale slot as you said.
My intent was to create sparse areas where little grass grows or in that point to have dry grass just like in reality. Instead of having a green lawn and all of the same height
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: Cinemike on 2022-04-16, 21:36:21
Glad I could help!

Good luck with your project.
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: Cinemike on 2022-04-16, 22:01:59
"My intent was to create sparse areas where little grass grows or in that point to have dry grass just like in reality ..."
Made me wish we could have the same functionality like with the Cloner for Chaos Scatter, too, where you can influence which clones are being created where depending on a map.
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: fabio81 on 2022-04-17, 19:30:43
eh eh exact :)
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: Stefan-L on 2022-04-21, 14:14:32
one question to make sure, corona scatter is using the new c4d multinstance system, right?
not the old render instances, or is it something not related to c4d at all?

i am yet testing but for now i have the feeling it takes more ram and more prepare time then the c4d multinstances via the c4d cloner.
i might be wrong of course and need to test more.
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: fabio81 on 2022-04-21, 14:18:40
one question to make sure, corona scatter is using the new c4d multinstance system, right?
not the old render instances, or is it something not related to c4d at all?

i am yet testing but for now i have the feeling it takes more ram and more prepare time then the c4d multinstances via the c4d cloner.
i might be wrong of course and need to test more.

I couldn't figure it out yet because if you try to explode you can't find the objects inside anymore. It looks incredibly fast to me. I've always used surface Spread before
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: Stefan-L on 2022-04-21, 14:47:03
i tired it with a special grass setup of mine. i made this with mograph cloners. it is super fast in prepare and render, using multi instances.

now i tried a similar setup via chaosscatter, but it takes a while to start render and isnt very interactive in IR.

it might be i yet have made mistakes in "translation" of the setup, will try more.
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: fabio81 on 2022-04-21, 14:52:13
I can tell you that values I'm using values even 10 times higher than the ones I used for Surface spread without using Multi instance, so I presume that the new Chaos Scatter using Multi-instance.
Title: Re: Corona scatter and Corona Distance
Post by: Stefan-L on 2022-04-22, 12:19:26
ok good