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Messages - TomG

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Somehow it just missed us, this knowledge! Been using the default Corona HQ denoising + HQ filtering since... forever. One naturally assumes that anything native/Corona and "high quality" and which is also the default must be the best, for day-to-day use, and of course we've never had any issues with it, therefore no incentive/reason to try anything else. It's just this recent vid that caught our attention recently which caused us to change. But yes, the difference really is night-and-day. I wonder if the corona method simply needs to be improved if it's to remain the default... or just make Intel+Tent the default if better?

That's what I was repeatedly told when questioning it too, in that thread I posted you can see the other response were convinced with comments like "I rarely sharpen now with Corona defaults".  Intel + Tent is my default in my Maxstart file, i like the freedom of Tent too as you can adjust the Width(Px) to your liking, higher values softer, lower values crispier


Depends when you questioned it :) For a long time, the AI denoisers tended to blur detail and lose bump mapping, especially subtle (think wall plaster or similar), so Corona HQ was the best. That began to change in 2022 with Corona 8, "Added OIDN feature pre-denoising in the Intel AI Denoiser, which gives better preservation of detail." and Intel have made several other improvements to OIDN since then, while NVIDIA's hasn't changed at all that I know of. Over the course of the last 3 years, Intel has become by far the best denoiser, including becoming fast enough to use in IR too. From when they come visit, it also seems like they are planning to continue updating OIDN, so they aren't finished it would seem :)

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Ahhhh apparently I hit Edit on dj_buckley's post when I meant Quote. Wondered why it seemed to be working strangely. Let me see if I can restore it, sorry about that.

Did my best to restore the original post, there's no undo, but I didn't modify the text and just took out the quoting of Alex, so I *think* I have it back to normal. So sorry!

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[C4D] Daily Builds / Are you still using the old VFB?
« on: 2025-06-26, 14:00:56 »
If so, please pop over to this thread so we can keep all replies together:
https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?topic=45158.msg234238#msg234238

Thanks!

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[Max] Daily Builds / Are you still using the old VFB?
« on: 2025-06-26, 13:59:44 »
Hi everyone!

We'd like to know how many of you choose the option to use the old VFB rather than the VFB2. If you are using the OLD VFB, please can you make ONE reply in this post below (if you are using the new one, VFB 2, no need to post here).

In your reply, if you have the time, please let us know what it is that stops you from moving to the VFB 2, as high level or as detailed as you like and have time to write up :) If you don't have the time to explain why, just adding a post with "me" or a "." in it is fine!

I ask for the one reply as then it makes it easy to count the number of users - a separate discussion thread can be started by anyone who wants more conversational back and forth between everyone.

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[C4D] General Discussion / Re: AI image enhancer
« on: 2025-06-19, 14:20:14 »
You are using the new button in the top of the VFB to upload the image for enhancement (and not the Collaboration tab in the VFB, which is for regular images and pano tours etc)? Unless you use that button to send it to the Cloud for enhancement, it won't be uploaded as an EXR and so won't be able to have enhancement run on it once in the Cloud (the Collaboration tab uploads send it as a PNG).

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Well, surprised either is considered pano, as the auto recognition of pano is a 2:1 aspect ratio. You can just manually change it to pano by editing the settings for the image in Chaos Cloud, though, and that should work.

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Is it trimming the image dimensions? What is the width and height sent to the Enhancer, and what is the width and height you get back? Or do you mean it is no longer 360 in some other way?

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The only way to do this for now that I can think of would be to bake the lightmix to the scene and render, so that the Beauty gives the same result as the LightMix used to.

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[C4D] General Discussion / Re: Chaos Cloud for Corona
« on: 2025-06-18, 13:52:25 »
You're welcome!

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Correct, credits are only used for Cloud Rendering, which Corona does not support. Other than that, the Cloud features  (Collaboration, Virtual Tours, AI Image Enhancer) are free.

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[Max] I need help! / Re: Corona 13 + Vantage Animation
« on: 2025-06-18, 13:50:31 »
PS - this apparently works in C4D already, but not in Max :)

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I can quote Alex's really good suggestion of running internally downresed input so the user can have the primary image be native high-res and AI enhancement up-resed.

I still miss the internal AA down-resing from Corona Alpha :- )

Oh the internal AA down resing, that was before my time - is it at all similar to what is shown in this recent video?
(basically, render to 2x resolution, then downscale to final image size). This is an idea I am considering putting on the cards for development, basically skipping the Photoshop step of downsizing, so am interested to hear thoughts.

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Or just focus on the ideas with the most votes?
I know that the ai effort is Chaos-wide, but there are many other things on the list and these features are very much replaceable with other existing and better products out there.
I don't mean to tell you how to do your product. This is just my two cents.


Just a note on this that no-one on the Corona team spends any dev time at all on the AI itself. All we do is the UI and hooks to get an image sent up to Chaos Cloud (well, and created a very easy new render element, which is basically just three other render elements combined). So you are seeing a feature that is as close to "free" as it gets in terms of development time, so much so that not adding it wouldn't make any sense :)

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That's the kind of thing that is planned for the extended controls later this year. Meantime, it's always worth adding things to the AI Ideas Portal at https://chaosai.ideas.aha.io/ where you could share your examples as the motivation on why such a feature would be useful (or vote and add a comment if such a request is already on there). Thanks!

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Has to be EXR as it has to have the extra data contained in the render element.

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