Author Topic: Prices for 3d works?  (Read 24663 times)

2016-09-09, 19:02:32
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antonyebl

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Its ok 50$ for this 3 images?

Im lost in prizes and I would like to talk about it. Its ok?

The key question is how much time it took you to produce those images...

(the quality of the images is only relative/secondary as long as the client is happy; the images you posted look good enough; with the level of detail)

Add the overheads; cost of software subscriptions / electricity bill / social security ...you get the idea :O

I really doubt you can get by with only 50$ for this work (with paying all the licenses etc)
Maybe if you managed to pull this off in a couple of hours with freeware/freebies, which would be a commendable feat :P

2016-09-10, 11:02:50
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I personally think that the prices here are under estimated in general. In fact, everything depends from the overall quality of each production but in general each of us should always consider:

- Taxes
- SW investments
- HW investments
- Bills
- Rent
- Expences
- Living
- Growing up economically

If I have to: Model that scene, texture it, lighting it, choose the correct objects to put in, choose the visuals, produce the test images, do some changes, produce the high res images, colour correction process... Well, 500$ or 500 Euros is way to low. That's my personal opinion and I can't even think about giving my work as a gift to the client. Here in Paris one image could cost 2.500 / 3.000 Euros for an arch. firm.

Anyway, each of us has his own prices and quality at the end and depends on the product and result you are selling out there.

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2016-09-10, 13:58:43
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Ricky Johnson

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I personally think that the prices here are under estimated in general. In fact, everything depends from the overall quality of each production but in general each of us should always consider:

- Taxes
- SW investments
- HW investments
- Bills
- Rent
- Expences
- Living
- Growing up economically

If I have to: Model that scene, texture it, lighting it, choose the correct objects to put in, choose the visuals, produce the test images, do some changes, produce the high res images, colour correction process... Well, 500$ or 500 Euros is way to low. That's my personal opinion and I can't even think about giving my work as a gift to the client. Here in Paris one image could cost 2.500 / 3.000 Euros for an arch. firm.

Anyway, each of us has his own prices and quality at the end and depends on the product and result you are selling out there.

Thanks,

Dionysios -

This is well put. There are two good points here:

-One about estimating the realistic costs of being a freelancer/self-employed (not just trying to scrape together an equivalent to a full time employee in a similar profession.

-The other about realising the value in the work 3D artists produce. I think even beyond your own assessment of your living costs.
Assuming we're talking about archviz, then you're an asset towards either private investment in property or investment of public money in public buildings. Neither are cheap.
$50 or even $500 is completely out of place within the scope of such projects.

2016-09-10, 14:01:01
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2016-09-10, 18:24:15
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I personally think that the prices here are under estimated in general. In fact, everything depends from the overall quality of each production but in general each of us should always consider:

- Taxes
- SW investments
- HW investments
- Bills
- Rent
- Expences
- Living
- Growing up economically

If I have to: Model that scene, texture it, lighting it, choose the correct objects to put in, choose the visuals, produce the test images, do some changes, produce the high res images, colour correction process... Well, 500$ or 500 Euros is way to low. That's my personal opinion and I can't even think about giving my work as a gift to the client. Here in Paris one image could cost 2.500 / 3.000 Euros for an arch. firm.

Anyway, each of us has his own prices and quality at the end and depends on the product and result you are selling out there.

Thanks,

Dionysios -

This is well put. There are two good points here:

-One about estimating the realistic costs of being a freelancer/self-employed (not just trying to scrape together an equivalent to a full time employee in a similar profession.

-The other about realising the value in the work 3D artists produce. I think even beyond your own assessment of your living costs.
Assuming we're talking about archviz, then you're an asset towards either private investment in property or investment of public money in public buildings. Neither are cheap.
$50 or even $500 is completely out of place within the scope of such projects.
+1
Architectural Visualizations / Deep work practitioner
https://www.tallboxdesign.com

2016-09-11, 06:37:48
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In archviz most renders are comissioned for competitions or client presentations.

In competitions there is a limited budget, which is reflected in the price offices/clients are willing to pay for a render.
(no-one working on archi competitions is well paid; consultants often work for free (with promise of prospective work), architects and interns are underpaid and work around the clock.)
For the time spent the 3d guys is better paid than architect, i.e. for ~1500 you can pay a junior architect or 3 interns for a month .

As for the visualisation itself, for competitions the overall atmosphere/impression of the image is more imporant. There is limited time and many changes until the last moment.
If you look at companies specialising in competition archviz, they are not the same people doing catalogue visualisations for developers' publications.

3d rendering has become much more approachable, even thanks to renderer like Corona (with great support, resources and community for learning), virtually every design/archi student is learning rendering today.

For students and enthusiasts it is a bonus if they get anything for an image.
For startups it is understandable they cut prices to get new clients on board.
Image quality is usually good enough and hence higher cost isn't justified for most purposes.

It mimics photography industry after the democratization of digital reflex cameras, where everyone has become a photographer :-)

Demand for high-end renders still exist, but it is a different market to most archviz today.

At the end of the day, architecture/construction is not about CG skill, the render is not the end product, but a means of communication. Renders are not comissioned as work of art.

2016-09-11, 13:14:29
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I personally think that the prices here are under estimated in general. In fact, everything depends from the overall quality of each production but in general each of us should always consider:

- Taxes
- SW investments
- HW investments
- Bills
- Rent
- Expences
- Living
- Growing up economically

If I have to: Model that scene, texture it, lighting it, choose the correct objects to put in, choose the visuals, produce the test images, do some changes, produce the high res images, colour correction process... Well, 500$ or 500 Euros is way to low. That's my personal opinion and I can't even think about giving my work as a gift to the client. Here in Paris one image could cost 2.500 / 3.000 Euros for an arch. firm.

Anyway, each of us has his own prices and quality at the end and depends on the product and result you are selling out there.

Thanks,

Dionysios -

This is well put. There are two good points here:

-One about estimating the realistic costs of being a freelancer/self-employed (not just trying to scrape together an equivalent to a full time employee in a similar profession.

-The other about realising the value in the work 3D artists produce. I think even beyond your own assessment of your living costs.
Assuming we're talking about archviz, then you're an asset towards either private investment in property or investment of public money in public buildings. Neither are cheap.
$50 or even $500 is completely out of place within the scope of such projects.
+1

+1
And dont forget the knowledge. All of us have paid or invested a lot of time and enfort to learn.

Im totaly agree with you.

2016-09-11, 13:36:58
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Of course, actually knowledge and technique at the end make the final price difference!

Dionysios