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Chaos Corona for 3ds Max => [Max] General Discussion => Topic started by: Marijan on 2022-04-25, 14:48:53

Title: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: Marijan on 2022-04-25, 14:48:53
Dear Corona team, I really don't understand the logic behind removing the “Legacy behavior” checkbox from the round edges map in corona 8.

It is a useful feature for many users as already discussed on forum when round edges behavior was first changed in Corona 1.6. 
Workaround for this is to use map from older scenes but why complicate.
In my opinion the checkbox was not only there to keep compatibility with older versions but as great additional feature to round edges map.
Instead of removing it I suggest renaming it to "ignore overlapping edges" or something similar.

Please consider this for some hotfix for Corona 8.Thanks!
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: maru on 2022-04-25, 18:52:20
Thanks, we have this logged with multiple possibilities such as bringing back the "legacy" checkbox or adding this as a regular feature.

(Report ID=CRMAX-1559)
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: PROH on 2022-04-25, 19:22:50
Yes please :)
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: arqrenderz on 2022-04-25, 22:18:01
Please # !!!
Agree with Marijan, the legacy behavior should be a feature!
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: BardhylM on 2022-04-25, 22:24:01
It would be really helpful to have the legacy option, as a lot of times the 3d models of the buildings are not clean, and with the new option there are a lot of round edges where there should not be.
The legacy option solved this easily, the other option is to remodel the objects :/
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: marchik on 2022-04-26, 03:32:51
in addition to this, the legacy mode made it possible to round the edges of thin objects, I vote 'yes" if this functionality is returned)
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: Cheesemsmsm on 2022-06-10, 10:22:08
TBH, I use this feature in every scene.
Besides bringing it back, it would be best if you named it. It's not a "legacy", it's the main feature!
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: hermanoc on 2022-07-07, 17:43:34
This is so necessary!
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: burnin on 2022-07-07, 18:15:13
Hm... there's a "Legacy behavior" option/checkbox. Have you tried it?
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: TomG on 2022-07-07, 18:50:58
Actually, there isn't in Corona 8 - from the release blog, "– From now on, the “Legacy behavior” checkbox is not visible in newly created Corona Round Edges maps. For already created Corona Round Edges maps it remains visible if already checked."
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: burnin on 2022-07-07, 21:39:13
Well, it's there, in a fresh new scene and working just fine.

(https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=36271.0;attach=168488;image)

:)
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: Marijan on 2022-07-07, 22:00:24
There isn't one in Corona 8 for 3ds Max, that's why I started this discussion.
Unfortunately this is also not changed in Corona 8 hotfix 2.
Looks like we have to hope for a better future :)
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: romullus on 2022-07-07, 22:14:07
As a workaround, you can temporarily install older Corona version, where this feature is still present, apply material with rounded edges map to some dummy object and save max scene to well accessible place. Everytime you'll need legacy option, you will have to merge that dummy object in your current scene and grab the map from it. Not ideal situation, but still better than nothing.
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: maru on 2022-07-08, 09:29:59
(internal stuff: already reported, moved)

(Internal ID=927528211)

Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: burnin on 2022-07-08, 23:12:27
Oh, I missed I was in 3DS Max section... my bad.
Well, I hope nudge helped a bit ;)
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: maru on 2022-07-26, 11:58:37
We are thinking about bringing the legacy checkbox back. Can't promise it right now, but will keep everyone updated.

Meanwhile, here is a workaround that works in V8:

RoundEdgesLegacy-all.ms - enables the legacy option for all Corona Round Edges maps in the scene

RoundEdgesLegacy-selected.ms - enables the legacy option for one Corona Round Edges map currently selected in the Slate Material Editor

Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: Marijan on 2022-10-24, 09:44:58
Hi Maru,

it seems that RoundEdgesLegacy scripts doesn't work in Corona 9.
Can you please provide some information how to fix this, or about plans for integrating this feature in round edges map permanently.
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: maru on 2022-10-24, 13:05:00
Hi Maru,

it seems that RoundEdgesLegacy scripts doesn't work in Corona 9.
Can you please provide some information how to fix this, or about plans for integrating this feature in round edges map permanently.

The script from my previous message seems to work fine for me. Just tried with Max 2022, Corona 9. What exactly is wrong when you run it?
Attaching proof :)
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: Frood on 2022-10-24, 13:25:05
It just does not work when the RoundEdges node is set to "fast". Maybe you should add a line "map.algorithm=0" to the script(s) to ensure the RoundEdges maps are set to "precise".


Good Luck



Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: Marijan on 2022-10-24, 13:31:40
It just does not work when the RoundEdges node is set to "fast". Maybe you should add a line "map.algorithm=0" to the script(s) to ensure the RoundEdges maps are set to "precise".
Yes, that was the problem.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: Ink Visual on 2023-04-26, 11:00:08
Any updates on this? Will it make it to v10?
Would be great to have legacy option back/checkbox to make use of previous behaviour.
Workarounds are quite annoying to use and we do need legacy behaviour pretty much on daily basis.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: TomG on 2023-04-26, 13:42:25
There's nothing in the plans for it at the moment, sorry.
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: Ink Visual on 2023-04-26, 14:30:26
I see, that's a shame but thanks for an update!
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: zules on 2023-04-27, 14:19:57
Hello,
please bring this option back, it's a mess on imported geometry from Revit and ArchiCAD as walls etc are mainly separated blocks, it RUINS every façades.

Do you plan to include it into C9Hf2 ?
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: TomG on 2023-04-27, 16:49:43
There's nothing in the plans for it at the moment. This would include 9 HF2 (plus this is more the addition of a feature, even if it was a "pre-existing feature", which means it would not be considered for going in a hotfix anyway which are always pure bug fixes).
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: rowmanns on 2023-05-25, 14:02:05
Due to popular demands, we have brought back the legacy option in v10.

You can grab the latest daily build and try it out here: https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?topic=38385.msg213025#msg213025
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: Frood on 2023-05-25, 14:49:02
Hi Rowan,

this is most welcome, no need to use scripts to fix a scene any more. I'd suggest implementing that "legacy" behavior as "angle threshold" in the new code, where we can decide when coplanar triangles stop to be such and start to be processed as edge.


Good Luck


Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: crmg88 on 2023-05-26, 19:54:24
hello!

Sorry if this is not the right place to post this.

I cant seem to get round edges map to work properly in an object with different poligons.
here the pictures. The map seems to change 1 of the edges to the correct form when I change the tick to "same material only", but not the other edges.

thank you very much for the help, I am very new to 3ds max and corona!
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: romullus on 2023-05-26, 22:23:22
Hi,

this issue has been solved in recent daily build by bringing back "legacy" behaviour. It will be available in Corona 10
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: crmg88 on 2023-05-27, 00:06:32
thank you very much.

So at the moment there is no way to work around this? have to wait for corona 10 or redo the model to make it 1 poligon?

thanks
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: romullus on 2023-05-27, 00:32:52
You can download V10 daily build from the link below and use the new old feature in rounded edges today. Just make sure to read daily builds FAQ (available in the same link) and understood the risk of using daily builds. The most recent build is already reached release candidate state, so should be close to final in terms of features and stability.

https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?topic=38385.msg213161#msg213161
Title: Re: Corona 8 round edges
Post by: zules on 2023-06-14, 15:04:42
Due to popular demands, we have brought back the legacy option in v10.

You can grab the latest daily build and try it out here: https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?topic=38385.msg213025#msg213025

Thanks, this is simply how to make my day better :) Can't wait v10 !