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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-07-31, 18:46:16 »

Hi guys, small OT: in the BIOS I have the memory frequency set to auto but theoretically RAM goes at 2133Mhz (as you can see from the picture). Should I force it to 3000Mhz? I have the Corsair Vengeance 3000Mhz. Thanks.

P.S.: I have two 32GB (2x16GB) kits, 64GB overall.

You can try loading XMP profile first and see if it's stable. Usually there are two profiles (XMP1 & XMP2, the second being usually faster). XMP will set frequency, timings but also lot of other stuff, if that proves problematic, you can set timings and frequency manually.

Set it to 2933, not 3000. Both will work but the first is native multiplier for Ryzen.

Thanks,
there's no way to set any XMP profile in BIOS...if I set only the frequency to 2933Mhz?

Of course there is, it's usually right on the front page, in EZ mode.

But you can set it manually yes, just set the timings as well.

Found it! Thanks, now they're working at the right speed!

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-07-31, 15:02:35 »

Hi guys, small OT: in the BIOS I have the memory frequency set to auto but theoretically RAM goes at 2133Mhz (as you can see from the picture). Should I force it to 3000Mhz? I have the Corsair Vengeance 3000Mhz. Thanks.

P.S.: I have two 32GB (2x16GB) kits, 64GB overall.

You can try loading XMP profile first and see if it's stable. Usually there are two profiles (XMP1 & XMP2, the second being usually faster). XMP will set frequency, timings but also lot of other stuff, if that proves problematic, you can set timings and frequency manually.

Set it to 2933, not 3000. Both will work but the first is native multiplier for Ryzen.

Thanks,
there's no way to set any XMP profile in BIOS...if I set only the frequency to 2933Mhz?

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-07-31, 08:36:02 »

Hi guys, small OT: in the BIOS I have the memory frequency set to auto but theoretically RAM goes at 2133Mhz (as you can see from the picture). Should I force it to 3000Mhz? I have the Corsair Vengeance 3000Mhz. Thanks.

P.S.: I have two 32GB (2x16GB) kits, 64GB overall.

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-07-26, 09:16:56 »

I've checked several internet shops for user reviews and they are mostly negative for Enermax Liqtech II as well. I decided not to risk.
I've checked U14s specs and its heat spread is only 180 W according to the specs. However Noctua says it is compatiable with 2990 even with a medium overclock. I think I will give it a try. Well at least michaltimko has the same cooling and MB and he was able to get 41 s at benchmark - that is more than enough for me.

Scared of your words I wrote to the customer service od Enermax, I told them that I don't really want to risk and if I had to change it for security. They asked me the serial, than they told me that my serial isn't affected by any problems. Hope their are right!

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-07-23, 17:13:49 »

Thanks for your answer Juraj.
So, is it still better to buy Enermax LiqTech TR4 II 360 (even though they may have this leakage issue)? I've just heard that there is alphacool eisbaer 420 with a mounting plate for TR4 (although it doesn't cover 3.5mm of CPU from two sides as the pump plate is 63х63 and CPU is 52x70) anyone heard of it? From what Juraj said I assume this is still not a very good idea.
I would gladly buy 128 RAM but as always the budget is very tight.
So if to sum it up the best options are either  LiqTech TR4 II 360 or Noctua NH-U14S and Silver Arrow TR4. Is Noctua NH-U14S still better than all AIO except for the Enermax? (Maybe it is a good idea to buy U14s and even if it blocks the top GPU slot I may insert the 1st GPU in the bottom 16xPCIe and when I have the money for the second one I may just buy another cooling system - hope there will be more of them in the future.)

Hi,I thinlk that the problems with the Enermax LiqTech were in the first release, this is the LiqTech II, just because it has been updated.

Are there still problems with Windows 1903 and Corona Render? Can I update?

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-07-11, 20:03:50 »

Hi guys, I spent some time testing my new workstation. I come from an HP Z820 dual Xeon E5 2643, and the new one clearly outperforms it. For the same render now I spend 1/5 of the time.
In idle the CPU temperatures is between 31°C and 33°C, under heavy load up to 53°C in the worst scenario.
I noticed that sometimes, during a render, after staying stable at 52°C for several minutes, the temperature goes for less than a second to 62°C and than it goes back to 52°C while the CPU load seems to go down instead. Why? Is it normal?
Another thing that I saw is that if in 1 hour render the temperatures doesn't go above the 52°C, during denoising it can go up to 58°C for example, why does it happen? It seems that some tasks are heating more than others under the same CPU usage.

Thanks,
Andrea

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-07-04, 19:19:56 »

Looks fantastic ! Simple and to point.

What are the fan RPMs under full load on default auto-settings ?

Right now you have more negative pressure in the case, if you find it gets bit too dusty, you can add one more fan to the front to get more positive pressure into the case, or you can tape the pci brackets to shut them off (but that could add temperature to the gpu).

In idle they are between 1100 and 1200rpm, under full load they didn't go over 1700rmp with 51° max (maybe because the room is less hot now). I updated the BIOS but I'm still in Windows 1809. Good data?

P.S.: I paid attention to the thermal paste, I used Thermal Grizzly!

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-07-04, 16:14:19 »

Hi guys, here's some pics!
34° in idle, 57° full load! Is it good?

Thank you for your help guys ;)

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-06-27, 17:34:03 »

Thank you to your informations!
Black is so cool indeed, however I'll go with Enermax. I'm going to place the order, hope to remember how to assemble a PC...It has been so many years since I assembled one!

You will be good because TR4 is 'stupid-proof' platform :- ). The pins are not on the expensive chip, but on motherboard, so you cannot destroy the CPU accidently...  And there is also tray into which the chip slides first...it's very LEGO like, probably the easiest platform to build. You can have both hands left and you will still be unable to make any mistake.

Only the thermal paste is bit hassle because the heatspreader is so large that single blob doesn't work (doesn't work so well..). You can do AMD's suggested "X" method (two crossed lines), or 5 small blobs. Or if you feel like pro, you can put on gloves and spread thin layer manually, but the first two methods are good enough and very easy to do.

Ok, I placed the order, everything sold and shipped by Amazon, only the CPU from another shop so I'm more comfortable with the warranty.
I can't wait to assemble it!

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-06-26, 14:42:51 »

Thank you to your informations!
Black is so cool indeed, however I'll go with Enermax. I'm going to place the order, hope to remember how to assemble a PC...It has been so many years since I assembled one!

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-06-26, 11:54:25 »

Post a photo when you get it and start building :- ) It's great looking board.

Yes it's gorgeous! So this is the final selection:

CPU: Ryzen 2990wx
MB: Asus ROG Zenith Extreme Alpha
Cooler: Enermax LiqTech II 360 RGB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 PC3000Mhz 64GB
PSU: Corsair RM850x
GC: Asus ROG Strix RTX2060
Case: Fractal Design R6 GunMetal USB-C
Storage: Samsung M2 SSD NVMe 970 EVO Plus 500GB

Hope it'll get the job done!;)

I thought that was better to take the Enermax, because I really don't like the shitty brown fan of the Noctua and it gives you pretty the same performance of Noctua (although I thought it was better being a liquid system)...but yesterday I saw a comparison between Noctua and two liquid cooler systems (not by Enermax), Noctua was better both from a noise and thermal point of view.

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-06-25, 19:31:55 »

Post a photo when you get it and start building :- ) It's great looking board.

Yes it's gorgeous! So this is the final selection:

CPU: Ryzen 2990wx
MB: Asus ROG Zenith Extreme Alpha
Cooler: Enermax LiqTech II 360 RGB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 PC3000Mhz 64GB
PSU: Corsair RM850x
GC: Asus ROG Strix RTX2060
Case: Fractal Design R6 GunMetal USB-C
Storage: Samsung M2 SSD NVMe 970 EVO Plus 500GB

Hope it'll get the job done!;)

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-06-25, 07:11:37 »

Ok, thank you.
I can't find the alpha version of the Motherboard Asus, is it better to take the Zenith Extreme (no Alpha) or the MSI Meg creation?

Non-alpha, the original Zenith Extreme, not under any circumstances. You would have to buy additional 10 euro 40mm cooling fan kit Asus sells and it would look hilarious, and both VRM and chipset cooling would still be pretty bad.

If you don't want 4xGPU in future (in which case Aorus Xtreme is the only board that supports doing so), then MSI MEG. Reason why Alpha and MEG can't have 4 dual PCI-e slots is because those big VRMs don't fit even on regular E-ATX board together.

Where are you from ? There are plenty of Alphas on Amazon in US and EU when I checked at least. The 10Gbit onboard plus Asus UEFI (much nicer than MSI's...) are big benefits for going for Asus, but from hardware standpoint, MSI's VRM is still superior.

I come from Italy, for convenience, I was searching only in Amazon, now I found it in another marketplace! Thank you!

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-06-24, 15:15:22 »

Wait for new Ryzen?
So is it better to take an i9-7980xe? Paying 300/400€ more?

Sorry but I was going to order the components for the 2990wx, now I'm a little bit confused ;)

Don't wait for anything, 2990WX is still great choice right now to buy.

With the Ryzen9, you would probably have to wait for the rumored x590 version of chipset to get good enough power cascade to overclock it. Also, it's dual-channel 4dimm slot platform. So you will be limited with 64GB of memory (at least until support for 32GB modules which Samsung started producing recently will become available. But that is 'when' and 'if' ).

i9 7980XE is absolutely not better chip, neither is any i9. I only have it because it came much earlier than Threadripper and I got good deal for it (I bought it half the price).

Ok, thank you.
I can't find the alpha version of the Motherboard Asus, is it better to take the Zenith Extreme (no Alpha) or the MSI Meg creation?

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-06-24, 12:00:42 »

engiy@ I think Juraj meant wait with the 1903 Windows build, since it's apparently not yet working with the Threadripper.

But I might be wrong?

I think you're right!