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2020-10-27, 10:07:30

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Hi ! I'm thinking in improve my actual pc ( i7-4770k ) and i was reading a lot and finally this is my configuration, what do you think ? Do i need change something ?

CPU: Ryzen 5950x
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15
Motherboard: Asus Rog Strix x-570-E
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 3600 Mhz 128GB (4x32gb)
GPU: Gigabyte Geforce RTX 3080 Gaming OC
Case: Fractal Meshify S2
PSU: Seasonic Focus +1000 ( thinking in add another gpu in a future )

2020-10-29, 03:09:05
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Go for RX6800XT instead of RTX3080 for smart access memory feature

2020-10-29, 04:29:54
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But the AMDs won't support NVIDIA AI Denoising, and also limit you if you want to go for a GPU based renderer. Those may or may not be something the original poster is concerned about, but could certainly be a deciding factor in picking an NVIDIA card if so :)
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2020-10-29, 11:18:03
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I prefer NVIDIA gpu, but my worry is memory, i don't sure if it is good for this configuration.

2020-10-29, 13:58:42
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Perfect choice in everything :- ) Looks like you have done your research well!

Optional notes:
- Tom is correct, for CGI artist, nVidia has us locked because of CUDA & Optix dependent software. The new AMD cards are fantastic value due to having 16GB of VRAM which is super useful for viewport management (highres texture visible, multiple 3dsMax instances open at same time,etc..) but real-time Optix Denoiser is far too valuable.

- Strix-E X570 is great board. I have one too ;- ). You could alternatively go for X550 if you don't want active chipset fan.
My is super silent.. but I use blower GPUs so this area is not hot. With AIB GPUs (Gigabyte, MSI, Asus,...) it will be different.

- If you are from US or somewhere where FE cards are available, I would go for FE version. It outputs 1/3 to 2/5 of heat directly out of case which is pretty useful for CPU-heavy workstation.
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2020-10-29, 18:48:06
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If you have time and can wait the only thing I would recommend is AIO GPU, Some people like blowers better. But if you need the system now then AIO is not an option. I've had blowers and they create more heat inside and especially outside the case.  I found that moving to an AIO reduced heat, especially reduced the heat of the card itself, and can work at 100% for days without throttling.

Juraj, what's your take on AIO vs Blowers?

Either way it's a great configuration.

2020-10-29, 19:49:16
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I've had blowers and they create more heat inside and especially outside the case.

I am bit confused what you meant here :- ).

Inside case? Blower cards don't create any heat inside case because they blow it outside.

Inside the GPU itself? Like running hotter? They do usually run slightly hotter and lot more louder. That is mostly issue in gaming with power spikes from heavy turbo boost. It's not uncommon to lower the power envelope by 10perc. (Quadro cards are already more conservative here, i.e 250W vs 300W+)

Just one note on heat, because I often see it on Reddit frequently: Hot card doesn't produce more heat. It produces the same amount of heat, it's only transfered outside faster. If the card is 300W, it will produce 300W of heat, regardless if it's 60c or 90c degree hot (voltage does change based on heat though).

AIO GPU (I only know about EVGA, and few AMDs, does anyone else make them?) is pretty good idea if you can place the radiator as exhaust, effectively making the card into more silent blower. But they're pretty expensive (judging from EVGA 3090, the AIO version is like 300+ more expensive...bit too much).

If you only use GPU for viewport and Optix denoising, none of it matters much since it has low GPU utilization.

I am big fan of Ampere Founder Edition cards from nVidia. They are semi-blower, the best of both worlds. It particularly works great for the massive 3090. The AIB can be slightly cooler but are worse for powerful CPUs cooled by air tower. Gamers don't need to care, but if you have 80c hot Threadripper, every bit of case air improvement flow helps.
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2020-10-29, 22:09:17
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Yes GPU it self, and air blown out of the case.  The room I was in would heat up to something terrible with the blower cards. The AIO would stay cool, not throttle, and the room would not heat up nearly as much.  EVGA, MSI, and I think another makes AIO cards.  The radiators were always set as exhaust. AIO seemed to be the best bet for high use GPU or Multi GPU situations like GPU rendering.  Just what I have experienced.

2020-10-30, 10:13:49
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Perfect choice in everything :- ) Looks like you have done your research well!

Optional notes:
- Tom is correct, for CGI artist, nVidia has us locked because of CUDA & Optix dependent software. The new AMD cards are fantastic value due to having 16GB of VRAM which is super useful for viewport management (highres texture visible, multiple 3dsMax instances open at same time,etc..) but real-time Optix Denoiser is far too valuable.

- Strix-E X570 is great board. I have one too ;- ). You could alternatively go for X550 if you don't want active chipset fan.
My is super silent.. but I use blower GPUs so this area is not hot. With AIB GPUs (Gigabyte, MSI, Asus,...) it will be different.

- If you are from US or somewhere where FE cards are available, I would go for FE version. It outputs 1/3 to 2/5 of heat directly out of case which is pretty useful for CPU-heavy workstation.

Thanks Juraj, unfortunately i live in Spain so i think that is difficult find a FE GPU and probably i'll go for the x570. I work with music so some loud in fan is not a problem haha

2020-11-02, 09:00:11
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Yeah I don't think any of us will have much chance to buy FE until February/March with exception of few pieces here and there to UK/Netherlands/Germany.

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2020-11-05, 14:48:09
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Watch out on the cooler/mobo combo. It fits but you need to mount the rear fan further up the heatsink due to the size of the I/O Block

2021-03-02, 09:56:37
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Hi ! I'm thinking in improve my actual pc ( i7-4770k ) and i was reading a lot and finally this is my configuration, what do you think ? Do i need change something ?

CPU: Ryzen 5950x
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15
Motherboard: Asus Rog Strix x-570-E
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 3600 Mhz 128GB (4x32gb)
GPU: Gigabyte Geforce RTX 3080 Gaming OC
Case: Fractal Meshify S2
PSU: Seasonic Focus +1000 ( thinking in add another gpu in a future )

Hi guys!
I am buying almost the same PC spec with a little change - 2x32GB RAM sticks instead of 4x16GB.
I know that there will be problem with Noctua and height of RAM sticks.
Especially with 32GB sticks.
I am looking for 3600MHz memory and I found that perfect fit -  https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/VENGEANCE-LPX/p/CMK64GX4M2D3600C18
The problem is that they are almost out of stock which means overpriced I guess...
Did you guys maybe had same problem?
I am thinking about changing to AIO and choosing sticks which I want.
PS. I don't like LED

Peace
Marcin

2021-03-02, 11:00:23
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All 3600/CL18 are mostly the same dies from Hynix, so it doesn't matter if you buy Corsair, G.Skill or Patriot, you will get the same memory. Only exception is Crucial, which is using their own Micron dies. The Crucial is also more expensive but also higher quality and better AMD compatibility (they even have higher end 3600/CL16 32GB Modules, but they are hard to get).

Patriot Viper, Crucial Ballistix, etc. are all pretty low profile.

Also, you can get Noctua NH-D15S, which has better memory clearance. But yes you can also get AIO.

BTW the above poster is using 4x32, not 4x16. Those Patriot modules should fit just fine, perhaps even with regular older D15.
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2021-03-03, 20:42:02
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Thanks Juraj!

2021-03-06, 00:15:15
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Also, you can get Noctua NH-D15S, which has better memory clearance. But yes you can also get AIO.

I can't recommend the D15S enough. In my case, it was a matter of necessity, as there just wasn't enough room. But whatever the case it delivers surprisingly similar performance to the one with two fans.

2021-03-10, 14:12:33
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Hi guys!
I have finished assembling the PC build.
I encountered a problem with Patriot Viper4 RAM memories along the way.
After loading 3600 profile in BIOS (updated) it didn't want to boot to windows.
I didn't have time to run memtest but I tried to swap them to my friends build (x570, 3800x) and he had the same issue.
I borrowed from him his ram stick (2x32 RipjawV 3600) and it booted just fine with 3600 profile loaded.
Fortunately, the store accepted the return.
Now I gonna use GSkill F4-3600C18D-64GTZN


Best,
Marcin

« Last Edit: 2021-03-10, 14:19:14 by marcell86 »

2021-03-20, 16:20:00
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Hi guys. I'm new on the forum. I finally finished assembling my ''little'' workstation build for 3dsmax+CoronaRenderer. Rougly as yours Marcell86 and elquenuncaviene.
And I can confirm F4-3600C18D-64GVK works. No troubleshooting to run at DOCP settings.

CPU: Ryzen 5950x
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15s
Memory: F4-3600C18D-64GVK 128GB (4x32gb)
GPU: used Asus GeForce GTX 970 STRIX OC - 4 Go (as long as there is no RTX in stock)
Case: Fractal Meshify 2 Compact
PSU: Seasonic Prime PX-750
« Last Edit: 2021-03-20, 16:25:15 by litenin »

2021-04-05, 18:15:00
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is that better than the Corsair LPX Vengeance? Just Curious

2021-04-06, 09:42:32
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All these brands (with exception of Crucial which is sub-brand of Micron manufacturer) source the same dies. They just do different binning, different quality assurance. But they mostly have the same hardware under those fancy heatsinks.

Buying memory is bit of lottery and it's less of a lottery the more you pay and with certain brands against others. Crucial and G.Skill have better reputation for binning that Corsair (they are memory specialists, while Corsair sells everything...absolutely everything).
G.Skill have billion different ranges that mostly just differ by heatsink design, but occasionally they have different XMPP/DOCP profile (the auto-overclock setting) and for example G.Skill Trident Z-Neo I think claims to be AMD optimized. Which may or may not be true.

Given the usual internet reference, people seem to be generally rather satisfied and I've seen far less complains than Corsair. Truth be told I have bought dozens of memory kits over years and had always some issues with Corsair memory.. so even I won't risk them.
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2021-04-15, 19:39:36
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All these brands (with exception of Crucial which is sub-brand of Micron manufacturer) source the same dies. They just do different binning, different quality assurance. But they mostly have the same hardware under those fancy heatsinks.

Buying memory is bit of lottery and it's less of a lottery the more you pay and with certain brands against others. Crucial and G.Skill have better reputation for binning that Corsair (they are memory specialists, while Corsair sells everything...absolutely everything).
G.Skill have billion different ranges that mostly just differ by heatsink design, but occasionally they have different XMPP/DOCP profile (the auto-overclock setting) and for example G.Skill Trident Z-Neo I think claims to be AMD optimized. Which may or may not be true.

Given the usual internet reference, people seem to be generally rather satisfied and I've seen far less complains than Corsair. Truth be told I have bought dozens of memory kits over years and had always some issues with Corsair memory.. so even I won't risk them.

Thanks to your reply Juraj, i went for the Ripjaws V and they turned out so great!

2021-05-01, 17:33:55
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Hi fellas,

Just built a 5950x workstation with essentially exactly the same specs as the others here. So far so good but I cannot get to 3600 with the ram. 3200 is the closest I can get and it seems this is a common problem...

Is anyone else facing this issue atm?


2021-06-09, 21:15:41
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Unfortunately, it's a lottery with three random factors you cannot influence:

- CPU memory controller binning.
- Motherboard memory support (this can be such picky thing like the distance of traces between CPU and Phase capacitators)
- Memory dies. This can change month from month depending on what the memory manufacturer sourced from dram manufacturer)

What you can do:

- Run the latest bios.
- Manually tweak memory settings. This is alchemy with lot of parameters. You can start by rising voltage little by little (1.36+), but this will increase heat which affects stability so you better have good case air-flow. It's no coincidence high-end kits often go to absurd levels like 1.5V.

Or you can just live with it. You will find it literally doesn't affect almost anything in actual real-world production. We're not talking high-FPS competitive gaming with CPU latency bound cases. But workstation usage. Zero drawbacks.
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