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2014-11-06, 09:30:59

grafichissimo

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Hello Folks,
honestly I am not very good about PC spec, at the moment I am going to buy a new Intel machine.
Have a look at my configuration....Is anyone complaining about this configuration?
I don't wanna spend to much ,but this 6 core processor look more appealing than the 4 core Intel® Core™i7-4820K 3.7GHZ  or the Intel® Core™ i7-4790k 4GHZ.
Is it worth or not, and about the rest, do you have any consideration?

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2014-11-06, 09:41:11
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Why not go for i7-5820K and a newer socket motherboard with DDR4 (s.2011-3)? It is also a 6-core but a newer one (Haswell-E) and it will work a bit faster.

Oh and definitely get a 3rd party CPU cooler, stock coolers are a disaster. Go for Noctua NH-D14 if you prefer air cooling, or Corsair H110 for some quick and easy AIO water cooling (I have tried Antec 1250 as well, and it is a great alternative). If you need a cheap variant you can go with Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO or Hyper 412S.

Everything mentioned will work wonders compared to a stock cooler.

Hope I managed to help a bit :)
« Last Edit: 2014-11-06, 09:46:16 by tomislavn »
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2014-11-06, 10:09:36
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Following your comment, this is £1,758.00 , 50 Pounds more than the other.
What do you think, about that kind of memory is not available on the website and the water cooler is the closest solution to your.
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2014-11-06, 10:37:29
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This seems like a decent config now. I cannot speak for H60 since I haven't personally tested it (should be something like H100 with a smaller radiator and 1 radiator fan but still plenty for cooling your i7).

I can tell you though that both Corsair H100 and H110 work great. H100 is a bit too loud in load, so you should think about using some 3rd party radiator fans on it, Noctua is great and quite cheap. Anyway, H110 is way better considering noise and is on par with Antec in both cooling power and noise.

And yeah...DDR4 is quite hard to find in stock, if you can find it grab it :)
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2014-11-06, 11:10:19
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Thanks tomislavn I appreciate.
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2014-11-06, 11:44:18
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Thanks tomislavn I appreciate.

No problem at all :) I am glad that I was able to help you a bit.
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2014-11-06, 12:07:06
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Following your comment, this is £1,758.00 , 50 Pounds more than the other.
What do you think, about that kind of memory is not available on the website and the water cooler is the closest solution to your.
A few notes from me.
I'd stay away from the V300 SSD's. They changed the memory in latest batches, so they are worse than before.
H60 might be ok, but any decent air cooler will do a better job. Noctua NH-D14, Noctua NH-D15, Noctua NH-U14S, DeepCool Neptwin, Zalman CNPS12X to name a few.
550w might not be enough, and VS series from Corsair isn't that good either. Get at least 700w with 80+ rating.
And all that you can afford by switching from 5930k to 5820k. Both are 6 core, with 5820k being a lot cheaper, but giving roughly the same performance (especially overclocked).

2014-11-06, 12:22:20
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Thanks again guys, this is my last config already in process.
I choosed the 5820K, it looks better compromise, and a bigger cooler system even if Corsair is not so good in your opinion is the only choice I have at the moment.
About the SSD if is not good, i will replace it with something better.
I will ask you something about Over clocking when the machine is here.

See you later...

Case   FRACTAL DEFINE R4 BLACK PEARL QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)   Intel® Core™i7 Six Core Processor i7-5820K (3.3GHz) 15MB Cache
Motherboard   ASUS® X99-S: ATX, HSW-E CPU, USB 3.0, SATA 6 GB/s
Memory (RAM)   32GB CRUCIAL DDR4 2133MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card   2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 760 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready
2nd Graphics Card   NONE
3rd Graphics Card   NONE
1st Hard Disk   240GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)
2nd Hard Disk   4TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 5900RPM 64MB CACHE
3rd Hard Disk   NONE
4th Hard Disk   NONE
RAID   NONE
M.2 SSD Drive   NONE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive   24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
2nd DVD/BLU-RAY Drive   NONE
Memory Card Reader   NONE
Power Supply   CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling   Corsair H100i Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Extra Case Fans   1 x 12CM Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Thermal Paste   ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Fan Controller   NONE
Sound Card   ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking   10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Router/HomePlugs   NONE
USB Options   MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Modem   NONE
Firewire   NONE
TV Card   NONE
Power Cable   1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System   Genuine Windows 8.1 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence
DVD Recovery Media   Windows 8.1 (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
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2014-11-06, 14:32:11
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H100i - great! Not the bes, but much better than H60 ;)
All else is ok except for the power supply. You really need at least a 700w unit.

2014-11-06, 14:59:31
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He doesn't need more then 500w for this system... The components listed here will use not more than 400w total in peak.. But yeah, the more the better for future upgrades - though it is definitely not necessarry for his spec even with OC.
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2014-11-06, 15:34:13
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Yes I  have checked and the system told me that this is enough for this config, you know I don't wanna spend too much in electricity ;)
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2014-11-06, 15:46:31
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Yes I  have checked and the system told me that this is enough for this config, you know I don't wanna spend too much in electricity ;)

Do not worry at all. Your system will be absolutely fine with 500-550W PSU.

Here, a graph of the latest rig with i7-5960X with GTX780Ti in gaming (full load on cpu and gpu) using 300W in total. In software that is using the CPU only the system draw doesn't even pass 200W ;)
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2014-11-06, 16:30:47
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I recently built a system with a 4930k, I got a stable overclock in 2 minutes, running at 4.4ghz like butter. Worth considering if you want to save a few bob.

2014-11-06, 16:42:34
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i7-5820K is overclocking as good as 4930K or better :) and with better thermals as well!
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2014-11-07, 00:45:34
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Overclocked 5960X + 980 GTX to max will rarely go up to 600W, so 550W is OK for 5820k. He can buy more to be save, but it's not necessary.

I really dislike close-looped water systems, but I especially hate Corsairs. Cheap pump, loud shitty fans, just mess for that money.
Keep Noctua NH-D15 and you get the same performance slightly cheaper and much more silent. And you can mount front-back fans and have super-silent PC (with Corsair you would mount the radiator up).

I don't think Kepler 760 is good buy anymore right now, if you don't plan on GPU rendering or playing games on max, get Maxwell GTX750Ti. If need more powerful GPU, buy 970. But don't buy 760. It was best performance/value GPU one year ago. but not today.

Corsair VS series is budget (towards lower end spectrum) PSU with CWT's design, I would probably go with better choice. You can stay with Corsair, and their HX/AX 80+ atleast GOLD PSUs which are made by Seasonic, or go Seasonic directly (or other reputable brands like Enermax, Silverstone,..or new boys
like BeQuiet/Goldflower/etc..)

SSD--- ) Samsung 850 Pro. For workstation, the price increase is both worth it for reliability (850 have 3D Nand already).

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2014-11-07, 09:56:59
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Well Juraj, I could agree with you that Corsair might have a bit cheaper materials and all but I think that it still is almost the best AIO system that you can buy currently. I made myself a casual pc for home use lately and I bought Antec 1250 with my i7 4770k and it is really nice. Looking great, quite sturdy and well made, but I would still replace it with Corsair H110 if I would do it again. Simply because you can switch the radiator fans on Corsair with some quiet ones (like Noctua) and have a whisper quiet operation, where Antec got the vents fixed.

A bit crappy picture, took it under low light conditions ;D
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2014-11-07, 11:16:45
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Thanks Juraj_Talcik and the others, at the moment the order is already in process.
Probably not the best config but, if I am not happy I will replace some device later.
Anyway I read that this processor is easy to overclock without any special knowledge, can you confirm? :)

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2014-11-07, 11:37:04
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You should be satisfied with the config :) no need to nitpick that much. i7-5820K is very easy to overclock but you should still know what you are doing :)
To make things short - you will have to change the multiplier only in the best case.

It is all silicone lottery nowadays. You can get a sample that will easily give you a stable OC with 4.6Ghz, where some other person might get the same chip but that one won't pass 4.2Ghz stable (without further adjusting voltages).
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2014-11-07, 11:39:47
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You don't even need to do change multiplier lol, the  ASUS® X99-S has the 5-way process that will do "auto-pilot" overclocking completely for you.
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2014-11-07, 11:45:15
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You don't even need to do change multiplier lol, the  ASUS® X99-S has the 5-way process that will do "auto-pilot" overclocking completely for you.

Exactly :)
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2014-11-07, 11:54:14
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We've gone long way from pencil (graphite) drawing on circuits....what was that anyone remember ? AMD Duron ? Pentium III ? Long time...

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2014-11-07, 12:00:40
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This is exciting , I can't wait!! :)
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2014-11-07, 12:20:10
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We've gone long way from pencil (graphite) drawing on circuits....what was that anyone remember ? AMD Duron ? Pentium III ? Long time...

I believe it was used mostly on Durons, not sure about Athlons, should google a bit about it to remind myself better :) Oh, those good old times!
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2014-11-08, 13:12:37
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I went with the kraken k60 for cpu cooling, got two extra fans to run in push pull config, run them on super low rpm to keep it quiet. I really like the kraken, it has some neat features, I believe there is a X61 now that has control over the pump speed.