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Hardware / Re: PC freezing

« on: 2020-05-17, 12:52:58 »

I had a similar issue recently with 2 different machines - random freezes, except sometimes the mouse would still work. Would happen under load & whilst idle. In the end, I reformatted one of the machines (2990wx) and slowly added my software back on 1 at a time and (so far) all seems fine. The other machine I simply did a Windows update - I think that's probably what caused both the problems. So in other words, if that sounds like the problem your facing, check you're on the latest Windows version. Good luck!

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper Builds

« on: 2019-10-23, 10:34:38 »

I wish I could buy that fake Apple cheese grater case from Dune right now, I would absolutely put this there :- D I am honestly a fan, in un-ironical way.

Yeah, that case looks great - planning on snapping one up before Apple shuts them down.

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[Max] I need help! / Re: DR crashing render just before denoising

« on: 2019-02-06, 00:01:49 »

Thanks for the suggestion - I'll look into it. If I remember it correctly, bloom and glare are enabled on the Lightmix element but perhaps not in the main settings.
1 other thing I discovered when testing it before - on the Master machine it appeared to hang at the end of the render, so I went to the only node running and shut down DRSlave - the master then immediately started to denoise and finished the render.

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[Max] I need help! / DR crashing render just before denoising

« on: 2019-02-05, 18:59:03 »

Hi.
Over the last week or so distributed renders have, more often than not, been crashing at the end of the render, just before denoising starts and while gathering data from the nodes. All systems are on v3 hotfix 1, Max 2018.4.
The render log says 'Sending sampling mask to slaves timed out. Try to increase synchronization time or decrease maximum pixels per transfer.'
The DRLog on the node also says 'Sending file to remote side failed'.
Nothing has been changed with the setup and I've never had to touch the synchronization and pixels per transfer values before, so I'm not sure what are 'good' values to use. I'm assuming its a problem caused by something else in my system. If anyone can point me in the direction of a solution that would be most appreciated, as I can't reliably use DR at the moment.
Cheers

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Hardware / Re: Got about 4k€ to build a new workstation. Its been a while and Im a bit lost.

« on: 2018-11-08, 11:49:33 »

Hi.
I was in a similar situation a few months ago, with a similar budget, and ended up going down the threadripper 2990wx route, as that seemed best to me in terms of price to performance.
I've had some issues with my motherboards - first MSI MEG was faulty with a slow bootup time, which has now been repaired apparently, and a replacement Zenith Extreme literally blew up in my face, but 3rd time lucky with another Zenith.
Although I love the machine, even despite my MB issues which I think I've just been unlucky, it is a bit of a fiddley system to spec out.
Memory needs to be fast as it directly affects the speed of the processor(or, at least, its rendering times in Corona, which is all that matters to me), and you need to check its been tested with your motherboard (Check the manufacturers QVL lists for tested ram and pick from there, should be found on their websites and lists ram that they have actually tested with the motherboard).
Another issue is (or was when I was speccing out) cooling. The most commonly available AIO when I was shopping was the Enermax Liqtech TR4 but it has serious reliability issues. Couldn't find stock of any other AIO (I think Corsair now do one). There are air coolers from Noctua, Coller Master available, and Thermaltake I think, but not many and they may struggle if overclocking. Also make sure the contact plate for whatever cooler you choose is full size for the Threadripper. In the end I went with a custom loop with kit from EK water blocks. At the time it was the best option for me, probably still is but it was expensive. Others who have a more off the shelf cooler may be able to help more.
In the end, my parts lost was this : 2990wx/ROG Zenith Extreme (or MSI MEG)/64 gb Corsair Vengence Pro/ Seasonic 1300w Prime PSU/ Samsung EVO 480gb & 500gb ADATA NVMe SSDs/ EVGA 1070 ti (seems to work for me in MAX just fine, but if your budget will stretch go for a 1080 TI for extra VRAM) / EKWB Loop/ Phantexs Evolv X. I don't have a lot of storage on the machine as I work off a server
Anyway, just my 2 cents on my recent build - in the end an intel system may be best for you. One good resource to test out build configs is PCPartPicker, if you haven't been there already. I've spent hours on that website.....

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-11-08, 11:27:06 »

Great, let us know how it went. For me 3.8 at 1.1v rendering for hours was working fine, no crashes. But i was getting crashes in houdini simulations, so i bumped it a bit to 1.15 and running smooth now. I guess this really is silicon lottery territory, you might get lucky and run lower then me, or not :)

Well, I stressed tested it an all was well. Shut it down and the in the morning it wouldn't post :(. Flashed the bios and it booted fine (and has done ever since) and have just left it at stock for now. Just going to leave it be for now, actually use the machine for work and then think about what to do next. Even at stock its an awesome system and a big performance boost for me, but I'll probably look into either PBO or manual OC in a few weeks.

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-11-06, 01:24:24 »

Cheers for the heads up there - having said I would just leave the system as is for now, I was straight back into the BIOS.

Now running a manual OC at 3.8 all cores at 1.15v, and like you getting around 5750-5850 on Cinebench. Will now do some more through stress testing to check stability.

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-11-05, 20:00:38 »

Whats your temps ? Originally i wanted to purchase Zenith but after some proper research i went with Aorus so im curious what numbers you are getting.
Im using stock clock + NHU14s with one fan since two fans actually did nothing because of single heatsink design. CPU tends to sit at 55-58C even after several hours of rendering so im fine with it considering its on air.

Did some set up and testing over the last few days since the replacement board arrived. Current set up is the Zenith, 64gb Corsair Vengence Pro (had to downclock it a bit to 2866 as it wasn't stable), running PBO with Performance Enhancement set to Level 2 in the Bios (could have gone to lvl 3 but for now I didn't want to push it too far for now). Using a custom loop from an EK water block, 360mm rad with 3 EK Varda fans, 3 case fans (1 Noctua, 2 Phantexs that came with the case).
Temps are around 30 c at idle. Under load, cpu is at 67c, vrm at 68c. Fans are audible but not too bad at all.
Could probably spend some more time upping the power,  re-tweaking the cooling and overclocking the ram. But the performance is still great (I too have come from a 4930k, so this is definitely a big step up) and with the problems I've had over the last few weeks with the MSI board and its replacement I just need a functioning, stable machine, so I'll stay out of the BIOS for a while.

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-10-28, 21:08:34 »

Me too!!

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-10-28, 08:47:13 »

Replacement Zenith arrived yesterday and I'm up and running again! Third time lucky. And I built it exactly like you said, one component at a time (which meant it took all day to build). I can't set it up properly yet and test as I've got to go away but the temps are looking really good at the moment (CPU temp is better than ever, but that's probably down to better TIM placement on the CPU this time than anything board related). When I get back I'll get the memory speed set up correctly and set up PBO and give it some proper stress tests and see how good the temps really are. But I've never been so pleased to see a BIOS screen as I was yesterday :-)

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-10-26, 10:41:02 »

Just quick note since monoblocks were referenced. Do not go this way, the EKWB (and only they make them) TR4 monoblocks still feature the original small die cover plate. So it's like buying their original (v1 and v2) poor CPU block and plus VRM block together.

Super sad to see how the MSI MEG fared. We're still on 1.25 Bios, everything stable (and boot is very fast). VRM temps are fantastic without any cooler pointing on them. But, with the cooler on them, I would go with AORUS like Peter did, not Zenith. I am not sure what is the love-story some overclockers have with Zenith ( I get the love for Asus, I used 99perc. Asus boards for years, but Zenith x399 is very mediocre board for such price).

Anyway, as long as you cool your VRM it seems any board will do. MSI will just do it easiest (as long as you get functioning unit...), with no sweat.

Good tip about the monoblock - thanks.
You might be very right about the Zenith.  My fun and games with motherboards continue, as I did end up ordering the zenith a few days back. Board arrives yesterday, I assemble, turn on power supply and bang - sparks and then smoke coming from the board. I'm hoping that its just a bad board, not the PSU (which I've tried in another machine and it seemed fine.)Amazon to their credit are sending me another one for tomorrow, and we'll see how that goes. My worry is that some other component was fried when the MB went pop, but hopefully, the board isolated them.
Beginning to think my Treadripper build is cursed - next time I'll order a pre-built as the amount of time and money this is costing me is getting ridiculous.

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-10-24, 02:08:44 »

The MEG board has been out of stock everywhere in the UK for months now so I ended up going with the Zenith Extreme. I'm getting my system built at OCUK and the overclocker 8Pack will be tuning my system. From his testing he recommended the Zenith board over the MEG for 24/7 rendering use at 3.9/4ghz despite the VRM limitations. I'll see how it goes and update you guys when I get the system. I'll also have an extra 120mm Noctua fan pointed at the VRM's (using a custom bracket), just for extra peace of mind.

My plan is to sell on the MEG when it returns from its RMA holiday (unless I'm feeling flush in which case I may just build another system with it). Ended up ordering the Zenith as it seems to manage its temps better than the Gigabyte. I could swap to a monoblock from EK to help cool the VRMs later down the line, but for now I'd rather just get something up and running quick and the RMA will take minimum 2 weeks. 

Sorry to jump into this post, theres some great info on this thread so I thought it's the best place to get some help with my new 2990wx build. I built my last pc 5 years ago so im a bit out of the loop. any sugestions/improvements would be greatly appreciated!

so far I have spec'd.

CPU-Threadripper 2990WX

MB-MSI MEG X399 CREATION EATX TR4 (although I just read theres some problems?)

Ram - I have spent a week looking through charts and i'm more confused than when i started (samsung B-dies only?) I may also add another 64gb in the future.

Corsair - Vengeance LED (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (CMU64GX4M4C3000C15)
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (CMK64GX4M4A2666C16)
Or if theres any better options that anyone has in there builds? I was looking at the G.Skill Trident Z RGB but its almost twice the price and has rgb...

Cpu Cooler- such a bad selection available but I dont trust my abilities to make a custom loop.
The best option seems to be Thermalright silver arrow TR4, although theres no reviews...and I can only seem to find it on this website
https://www.sotel.de does anyone know if its a legit site?

or theres these options...

Cooler Master Wraith Ripper
Deepcool Fryzen
Noctua - NH-U14S TR4-SP3
Enermax - LIQTECH TR4 II 360 (so many bad reviews for build quality)

GPU- either a 1080ti or 2080, there around the same price so its a tricky one (I would like to play around with fstorm in the near future)

Drive- 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280

Case- Phanteks ENTHOO EVOLV X GLASS

Psu- SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 1000W 80+ Titanium (would 1300W be better)

I have a few big projects starting soon so unfortunately I can't hold off on the build anymore. thanks!

That's pretty much the same build I had, and although I had a reliability issue with the MEG, and the public BIOS is crap (can't speak as to the quality of the latest BETA), if it's working for you it's still a good board (make sure you buy from a retailer with a good return policy - I bought from Newegg US and they wouldn't take it, but luckily MSI stepped up). One issue I had was using the Phantexs case (which I really like) meant it was a bit tight getting the case USB panel cable into the socket on the MEG. The case has sliding panels for cable management, but I ended up removing one of them and only just managed to squeeze the cable in due to the framework of the case there.
I went for the 1300w Seasonic too, although I'm not really sure if that was overkill or not and the 1000w might be fine (someone with more knowledge on that may be able to answer, but I had it in my head that 1000+ was the way to go).
Cooler options are an issue if you don't fancy custom water, but that Silver Arrow looks reasonable in that review. Tracking some of these coolers down was a problem for me (which also drove me to try custom).

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-10-23, 15:10:25 »

Something to do with the BIOS itself -  it was always slow to boot up, about 15 minutes sometimes (which I initially put down to drivers, new platform, bios, something I'd built wrong) suddenly would take about an hour to get to POST , and that's if it even got that far - sometimes it would just power cycle endlessly. When it was working I had overclocked it for a bit to 3.7/3.8, but I'd mainly settled on upping the power cap to 400W and letting AMDs PBO do it for me. Ryzen Master would limit the CPU temps to about 68c, and it was boosting to an average 3.6. Was going to do some tweaking to the fans to get the temps down more when the motherboard finally died.
Handling the VRMs was what drew me to the MSI. They would get to about 75/80c under load, which I think was ok. But the bios for the MSI was terrible (no custom fan curves!!).
Crazy that you got such a drop in VRM temps from a few simple modifications. Did you add the fan direct to the motherboard (I think that's what the ASUS has done for gen2), or just to your case? I think EKWB has a few monoblocks for ASUS and Gigabyte motherboards, but I'm not sure how well they perform at cooling the VRM.
Such a shame really, because I was loving the actual performance of the chip - don't be put off anyone from buying one, just be aware that there are a few teething problems out there!

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-10-22, 15:18:19 »

So my MSI MEG Creation board died last week (I'm in the nightmare process of trying to get it RMA'd by MSI).In the meantime, I need to replace it with another, preferably non-MSI board. Can anyone here recommend one? I was originally trying to avoid using the gen 1 motherboards with the 2990wx, but at the moment I think I'll go with the ASUS Zenith Extreme, so looking for real-world use cases as oppose to a review that uses it for a day or 2.
Oh, and if anyone who has the MEG wants to try their luck with BIOS v26, I was sent it as part of their tech supports efforts to get the board working. Couldn't tell you what it fixes or breaks, but if anyone wants to try it then do ask.
Cheers

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Hardware / Re: Threadripper 2990WX

« on: 2018-09-17, 01:08:53 »

Looks great! Can't wait to get started on my build, those CB points look very promising.