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Chaos Corona for 3ds Max => [Max] Feature Requests => [Max] Resolved Feature Requests => Topic started by: JCdeBlok on 2016-06-13, 09:34:30

Title: EVO
Post by: JCdeBlok on 2016-06-13, 09:34:30
I'll just leave this here on the table.. :)

http://www.go-ghost.com/
Title: Re: EVO
Post by: pokoy on 2016-06-13, 10:23:38
Highly interesting technology, and so useful from what it seems.
Title: Re: EVO
Post by: bs on 2016-06-13, 11:07:37
AWESOME =) ... inspiring to see some sort of new approach =)
Title: Re: EVO
Post by: Rotem on 2016-06-13, 11:33:16
Does look awesome but I can't figure out how it could possibly result in smaller files, when you consider any modern raytracing renderer would likely sample each pixel much more than once.
Title: Re: EVO
Post by: Christa Noel on 2016-06-14, 05:17:58
what does that thing do? can somebody explain it in simpler word?
my brain is fully loaded in English translating and doesn't has enough space to understand what that words means.. :D
Title: Re: EVO
Post by: mferster on 2016-06-14, 22:56:31
Holy Crap that's amazing. Being able to have automatically generated pixel perfect per object masks would be a god send in my work flow.

edit: Hierarchical too!
Title: Re: EVO
Post by: FrostKiwi on 2016-06-15, 08:32:57
what does that thing do? can somebody explain it in simpler word?
my brain is fully loaded in English translating and doesn't has enough space to understand what that words means.. :D
Instead compositing with the pixel output of the renderer, it uses the individual samples. Meaning, if you have an image with 100 passes, it saves all samples from each pass, so basically 100 times the image. The images indicate, they can use somehow some smart algorithm to mostly cover edges though. So I imagine they worked around ending up with 10+gb files.

The benefit would be to have sub pixel perfect masks. Instead of having to fight with champfer and edge refine in cases where masks affect the subpixels of what is behind or infront.
It would be really awesome indeed, but I wonder at what workflow cost.
In VFX techniques for this kind of stuff is already established. Such a massive change in workflow...

edit: Currently only for Maya and Arnold standalone.
edit2: They claim they save all samples, which would mean color info for every pixel 100x in a 100 pass image, in the next point they say
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We have employed a lot of proprietary techniques to keep the file sizes down. In our tests, the average .EVO is only 20% larger than an EXR!
Which seem to contradict each other in my eyes, even without progressive architecture of a renderer you end up with a bullshit amount of samples to save. I guess they do edge select via edge AA whatever the equivalent is pass.
Title: Re: EVO
Post by: maru on 2016-06-15, 11:44:19
It would be best to see some real examples of this in action.
We can always try contacting them about it. :)
Title: Re: EVO
Post by: andrewdtejeda on 2016-07-06, 22:00:53
Thumbs up for this! I would love to see this integrated in the future.
Title: Re: EVO
Post by: Ondra on 2016-10-03, 16:28:36
not in the foreseeable future ;)