New Corona Lister Feedback

[maru]

Hi all,

In Corona 10 daily builds we introduce a reworked Corona Lister 2.0. Here are some of its features:
- The old version could only list lights, the new one lists lights and cameras in separate tabs.
- If an object has instances, they are displayed in a nested list where the top-level item controls the common parameters (such as light intensity).
- You can control instance name and selection individually per each sub-list item.
- You can select all instances by selecting the top-level item.
- You can hide and unhide columns.
Note #1: We are aware that the UI needs some more polishing - for example, some checkboxes should be centered.
Note #2: We already have some further improvements on our TODOs, so stay tuned for updates!

We are curious about your feedback: Is everything working as expected? Would you like to see some improvements in the UI and functionality? Is this something you will be commonly using in your projects?

Thanks in advance!

[maru]

New in 27.02 daily build:

- Action items - useful actions for cameras/lights under a single button
- Hidden columns are now remembered between 3ds Max sessions
- Columns with checkbox or action button are not resized

[LE DON]

is it possible to add a separate render resolution setting for each camera

[Basshunter]

is it possible to add a separate render resolution setting for each camera

+1

[marchik]

is it possible to add a separate render resolution setting for each camera

+

[Place]

is it possible to add a separate render resolution setting for each camera

+1

[las_Archviz]

hello guys, i wish you could add a list for the proxies and its options, because sometimes i want to change them all at the same time for every single proxy i have to do it one by one, and i wish there was a way to convert proxies to obj.s with one click.

[maru]

is it possible to add a separate render resolution setting for each camera

We will see if this can be done, but can't promise anything. Generally, the lister has access to any option available in the object. Since there is no option to control resolution in Corona Camera, and generally it is handled by 3ds Max, we may not be able to do it.

(Internal ID=1071881427)

hello guys, i wish you could add a list for the proxies and its options, because sometimes i want to change them all at the same time for every single proxy i have to do it one by one, and i wish there was a way to convert proxies to obj.s with one click.

We are planning a Proxy lister.

[VASLAVO]

Hello guys, grea work as always and it woud be awesome to have a proxy lister, scatter lister and also include the sun on the light lister or on a different tab, i think this will speed upa lot of process.

[maru]

Hello guys, grea work as always and it woud be awesome to have a proxy lister, scatter lister and also include the sun on the light lister or on a different tab, i think this will speed upa lot of process.

We are working on all of this. :)
*not exactly sure about the sun being in a different tab

[Jens]

We will see if this can be done, but can't promise anything. Generally, the lister has access to any option available in the object. Since there is no option to control resolution in Corona Camera, and generally it is handled by 3ds Max, we may not be able to do it.
(Internal ID=1071881427)

This is possible with the Scene Manager plugin from Pulze. So maybe there's some help to get from there/them?

[kino_unico]

add please
+ proxy
+ scatters
+ sun
+ sky
+ Environment

[rowmanns]

add please
+ proxy
+ scatters
+ sun
+ sky
+ Environment

Proxy and scatter are coming in the next daily, Sun is already there you'll need to install the latest daily for it..

I'll make a note of the others :)

Rowan

[kino_unico]

cool

[michaltimko]

I like new proxy lister, its snappy and fast but for managing huge amount of proxies, id love to see some features from 3rd party script (CoronaProxyLister) but not sure if its possible to implement them this way.

- manually selecting proxy file in the scene which is instanced and part of the "instance group" is not highlighted in new proxy lister. So basically selecting any proxy which is instanced = you cant find highlighted in proxy lister.

- would be possible to add toggle to disable grouping of instanced proxies ? I basically have no idea where to look for specific files becase all i see are just groups (filename visible but important is how is file named in the scene) > https://i.gyazo.com/2f4f6ab53a507845ea4ddd04fc008b64.png

- I would love to see ability to use shift and ctrl while making selection instead of clicking on "sel" button. Selecting 150 unique proxies which are randomly spread in the scene by clicking "sel"  button is very time consuming. It would take 5s to just hold shift and select first and last > https://i.gyazo.com/be428b8fd09cc571ac70a74a74b1bdb8.mp4

- I also miss ability to change properties of group of proxies which are not instanced. For example, i have 200 unique proxy files in scene but i want to quickly select them, change previz type from wire box to point cloud. In CoronaProxyLister i can do it quickly by selecting said proxies in the scene and with click of one button change previz type for all of them > https://i.gyazo.com/64e202ea545d9b104e7ff1dbeb559c14.mp4

https://i.gyazo.com/be428b8fd09cc571ac70a74a74b1bdb8.mp4

[maru]

Check out our newest lister and share your feedback please! :)

https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?topic=38385.msg212584#msg212584

[tallbox]

Yesterday had a scene with more than 100 lights objects; the moment I selected all with the lister and max froze.

[rowmanns]

Yesterday had a scene with more than 100 lights objects; the moment I selected all with the lister and max froze.

Hey!

Thanks for reporting this, which daily build are you using?

Rowan

[Basshunter]

I like new proxy lister, its snappy and fast but for managing huge amount of proxies, id love to see some features from 3rd party script (CoronaProxyLister) but not sure if its possible to implement them this way.

- manually selecting proxy file in the scene which is instanced and part of the "instance group" is not highlighted in new proxy lister. So basically selecting any proxy which is instanced = you cant find highlighted in proxy lister.

- would be possible to add toggle to disable grouping of instanced proxies ? I basically have no idea where to look for specific files becase all i see are just groups (filename visible but important is how is file named in the scene) > https://i.gyazo.com/2f4f6ab53a507845ea4ddd04fc008b64.png

- I would love to see ability to use shift and ctrl while making selection instead of clicking on "sel" button. Selecting 150 unique proxies which are randomly spread in the scene by clicking "sel"  button is very time consuming. It would take 5s to just hold shift and select first and last > https://i.gyazo.com/be428b8fd09cc571ac70a74a74b1bdb8.mp4

- I also miss ability to change properties of group of proxies which are not instanced. For example, i have 200 unique proxy files in scene but i want to quickly select them, change previz type from wire box to point cloud. In CoronaProxyLister i can do it quickly by selecting said proxies in the scene and with click of one button change previz type for all of them > https://i.gyazo.com/64e202ea545d9b104e7ff1dbeb559c14.mp4

https://i.gyazo.com/be428b8fd09cc571ac70a74a74b1bdb8.mp4

Great feedback. +1 to every point.

[Ink Visual]

I was about to write some feedback after trying new lister but I will just second this post instead.
I agree with every single point. Lister is heading in good direction, but in case of proxies, I cannot see using it instead of Corona Proxy Lister plugin, all the funcionalities mentioned above are a must for new lister to become user friendly.

[michaltimko]

I was about to write some feedback after trying new lister but I will just second this post instead.
I agree with every single point. Lister is heading in good direction, but in case of proxies, I cannot see using it instead of Corona Proxy Lister plugin, all the funcionalities mentioned above are a must for new lister to become user friendly.

Also changing previz type on old lister was quite easy, with one click from none to point cloud etc. Now i have to manually use dropdown menu on 50 scatters separately. Not sure if that was an issue in old scatter list but if there is something already selected in the scene, clicking on "sel" button wont deselect that object automatically to open scatter settings. I have to deselect first and then click on "sel" again.

[romullus]

I was about to request that parameter changes should propagate on active selection and not only on a single item as it is now, but i see that's already requested by michaltimko, so i'll just add my vote to that. To be honest, i never liked how Corona listers are handling selections. Hopefully this will be significantly improved in the future versions, otherwise i don't see myself using this otherwise very useful tool.

I also would like to have an option to dock the lister, i think this could help with scene management.

[CharlyRT]

First of all, thanks for this update, Lister is one of the tools that i use alot and I was waiting for something like this.

One thing that would help me is the addition of 3ds max Cameras, sometimes we open files from different render engines and it would be helpful to have at least those cameras on lister, so we can create Corona cameras and compare some settings (FOV,Lens,ISO, etc)

For the Light section, its really what i wanted for years, the addition of LightMaterial makes it perfect, i know that maibe this will too much, but..... could it be a possible to incorporate Light Emission from Legacy and Physical Material?

Maibe this is something that wiil be updated in the final release, there are no Tooltips I think it would be helpful to have them in there too.

[CharlyRT]

Hello there,

Is there a possibility to arrange Lister Tabs?
I prefer to have Lights in the first place, then Cameras, but not everyone would like this arrange, so it could be helpful to arrange it where we want them.

[Aram Avetisyan]

Hello there,

Is there a possibility to arrange Lister Tabs?
I prefer to have Lights in the first place, then Cameras, but not everyone would like this arrange, so it could be helpful to arrange it where we want them.

This is reported now.

(Internal ID=1149962903)

[LE DON]

Can you add a list renaming feature?

[Basshunter]

Can you add a list renaming feature?

+1

[rowmanns]

Can you add a list renaming feature?

Hi,

How would this work for instances? You can already rename objects in the lister with a double click.

Thanks

[romullus]

Can you add a list renaming feature?

Hi,

How would this work for instances? You can already rename objects in the lister with a double click.

Thanks

I think request was about option to give meaningful names for automatic groups in lister. Here's my +1 for that.

[LE DON]

Hello there,

Is there a possibility to arrange Lister Tabs?
I prefer to have Lights in the first place, then Cameras, but not everyone would like this arrange, so it could be helpful to arrange it where we want them.

This is reported now.

(Internal ID=1149962903)

yes, I can name individual objects but not a group of objects. It will be really necessary if it is possible to name the group of objects

[LE DON]

Can you add a list renaming feature?

Hi,

How would this work for instances? You can already rename objects in the lister with a double click.

Thanks

exactly what i want

I think request was about option to give meaningful names for automatic groups in lister. Here's my +1 for that.

[dj_buckley]

Lister doesn't seem to detect Corona Light Materials that are inside of Multi-Sub Materials

[rowmanns]

Lister doesn't seem to detect Corona Light Materials that are inside of Multi-Sub Materials

Hi,

Thanks for reporting, it's a known issue and should be fixed in v11.

(Internal ID=1150842398)

[arqrenderz]

A handy addition would be to be able to change all selected at once, if you want all selected proxys to have a different visualization, or change light type or shape..
Much like the itoo software lister

[Neil Cross]

Small request. Would it be possible to get an on/off toggle under Corona Light Mtls? The only way to turn the lights off is to set the intensity to 0. Its easy to forget the intensity value if you working with multiple light materials.

[Aram Avetisyan]

Small request. Would it be possible to get an on/off toggle under Corona Light Mtls? The only way to turn the lights off is to set the intensity to 0. Its easy to forget the intensity value if you working with multiple light materials.

Hi,

Isn't the "Emit light" option what you are looking for?

[Neil Cross]

No cause the light will still show if you have visibility enabled. Turning it off should disable everything highlighted in red

[LorenzoS]

Hi,
would it be possible to add  lights grouped from lightmix?

thanks

[Avi]

No cause the light will still show if you have visibility enabled. Turning it off should disable everything highlighted in red

We have this feature request logged in our system to be further reviewed by our devs.

(Internal ID=1229830323)

[Avi]

Hi,
would it be possible to add  lights grouped from lightmix?

thanks

Can you please elaborate this request and why would you like to have it? Do you have some example user case?

[LorenzoS]

Can you please elaborate this request and why would you like to have it? Do you have some example user case?

Example:
I have to render a shop.. in the lightmix I create a CShading_LightSelect ("Ceiling spotlights") for the ceiling spotlights, a CShading_LightSelect ("Shelf spotlights") for the shelf spotlights, a CShading_LightSelect ("windows spotlights") for the shop window spotlights etc .
It would be useful to also be able to view them in the Corona Lister grouped by "Ceiling spotlights - "Shelf spotlights" - "windows spotlights" etc. to be able to modify them individually or in groups.

[TomG]

Wouldn't you normally create those groups in Max anyway, then use LightMix "By Group" to generate the appropriate LightMix?

[LorenzoS]

Wouldn't you normally create those groups in Max anyway, then use LightMix "By Group" to generate the appropriate LightMix?

can i see the name of group on coronalister?

[TomG]

Might be the more natural feature request though, to show groups of lights from the scene in Lister (rather than tie it to LightMix groupings) :)

[LorenzoS]

Might be the more natural feature request though, to show groups of lights from the scene in Lister (rather than tie it to LightMix groupings) :)

Yes,
and a small improvement would be to be able to select from the list either the entire group or the individual elements of the group without opening it.

[Dalton Watts]

Why isn't it dockable?

[arqrenderz]

If you have 20 cameras or lights you cant change a value in all of them at once.
Can we have that functionality please ?

[hurrycat]

Exactly. A quality of life feature that we have come to expect from modern software.

The first time i selected multiple proxies through the lister I tried to change their point cloud density, thinking of course I would be abe to. Wrong!

Please add this funtionality. It's not uncommon to want to change multiple proxies' display mode to box etc.

[romullus]

Selection improvements and multiple items edit is a must in my book. Without it the lister is barely usable.

[Dalton Watts]

Also, another quality of life improvement in the Unified Lister would be the ability to drag and drop texmap between lights, or at least copy and paste them. Right now, I can't drag, copy, paste or even drag the texture from slate material to the map slot in the Unified Lister.