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Hardware / Re: rendering stations
« on: 2021-10-21, 17:56:21 »
This configuration has one critical point and that is the PSU. Your PC would probably shut down as soon as you start putting some load on the CPU or the GPU. The 650w PSU is not enough for a 3970x and a 3080ti.
I would change the PSU for starters to at least 850 or even 1000w if you want to use the 3080ti as your GPU and a 3970x.

If you want to go for a 3990x you will probably have to take a weaker GPU since it will surely surpass your budget. At the end of the day, it is your decision but purely for 3ds Max and Corona, you don't need anything better than the RTX 3060 right now. I would suggest swapping the GPU for something weaker (depends on your budget) and the PSU for something stronger (at least 1000w) and also changing the cooler for a Noctua U14S it's better than the one on your list.

Hardware / Re: rendering stations
« on: 2021-10-21, 17:29:15 »
Hello in that budget you could fit a 3990x the only problem will be what gpu you want. The price of the configuration will also depend on the prices in your country but here is something that could work ok in that price range.

1. Cpu - 3990x
2. Asus Strix-XE Gaming TRX40 ( you could opt for a higher-end motherboard if you want to spend more money like a Zenith 2 Extereme or Alpha)
3. 128gb Kingston DDR4 3200Mhz 4x32sticks
4. 1200w Be Quiet platinum PSU or Corsair HX for example
5. 1TB Samsung 980 PRO Nvme SSD
6. RTX 3060 of any brand (the cheapest best buy RTX solution since it provides 12GB of ram, you could go with a better card but if you are not doing gpu rendering or gaming no point at all)
7. ICEGIANT ProSiphon Elite or Noctua NH-U14S for TR4 socket or if you want to spend even more money than a custom loop but be prepared to buy up to 3xtimes in respect to any air solution
8. Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL - great case, huge can fit anything inside plus the airflow is great! I have one :)

To conclude you have 3 components where you can save or spend more money. That would be the 1.motherboard where depending on your needs you can spend x2.
Pretty much all the motherboards even the ones that cost 400-500 euros will have enough vrm power to run your 3990x without any issues on stock, some even overclocked.

2. The GPU where you can spend x5 :) and the cooling as number 3 which is probably the most important part where you can spend up to x3-4.

Keep in mind that the above mentioned air coolers will run your 3990x perfectly at stock but if you want to use PBO or do any kind of extreme overclocking you will need a custom loop solution.

Hardware / Re: Sharing drive in Windows vs NAS
« on: 2021-10-21, 11:05:25 »
@dia.interactive - It is not a mistake to keep files on hdd's and if you are on a 1gbe network there is no real point in investing into an all ssd setup since you will be limited by your network to 100-110 mb/s.

Be sure to upgrade your network with a faster switch (2.5gbe,5gbe or 10gbe) in order to fully benefit from the setup you are about to install. Also use network NIC's inside your PC or any other port that is faster than 1gbe (pretty much all new motherboards today offer 2.5gbe by default). Raid 1 sounds ok but keep in mind you will only have1 SSD capacity so check if that is enough for you.

I am using a Raid 0 on the ssd's in order to achieve maximum capacity but I have 2 daily backups of the entire SSD raid over to the HDD RAID 5 and also a nightly offsite backup to the NAS located in my house.

Hardware / Re: Sharing drive in Windows vs NAS
« on: 2021-10-19, 19:39:32 »
Qnap TS-1277. The initial idea was to load all from the Nvme RAID 0 (proxies and textures mainly) but since we have most of the models on the RAID 5 we usually keep our model asset textures there so loading usually happens from the 2 raids (nvme and HDD raids) and the single ssd's.

Hardware / Re: Sharing drive in Windows vs NAS
« on: 2021-10-19, 16:51:07 »
My Nas setup is as follows:

1. 6x10TB Ironwolf Drives in RAID 5 (for models, assets, backup of old projects, photoshop assets, etc...) - Drive bays of the NAS

2. 2x1TBSamsung Enterprise sata SSD's 2.5" no RAID (just for textures) - Drive bays of the NAS

3. 4x2TB Samsung M2 970 Evo Plus nvme SSD's in RAID 0 (for all current projects and project-related files) - They are all stacked up on a QM2 Quad nvme SSD card in the PCI-E Gen 3x8 slot of the NAS

4. 1x512gb Samsung M2 860 Evo sata SSD's in RAID 1 for the NAS operating system (M2 slots on the motherboard of the NAS)

I don't use caching haven't tried it to be honest but I know a few people who tried it and had problems with it. Especially when you use read-write cache and when the SSD's get filled up. They tend to become super slagish and start affecting the network badly.

Hardware / Re: Sharing drive in Windows vs NAS
« on: 2021-10-14, 19:36:39 »
@ Ink Visual - all that you said seems spot on to me. We use a NAS(Qnap) in our office and for now, it works fine.

We also use both HDD's in raid 5 and Nvme SSD's in raid 0 for our project and asset shares and so far haven't spotted any difference in speed between the HDD raid and the SSD raid in terms of scene loading, dr server machine loading, render pass saving, etc... The only speed difference is in the sequential "department" but pretty much all the work that we do is based on random read and write tasks. We all have 10gbe nic's and a 10gbe switch.

@ Ink Visual - Would you mind telling me how many of you access the windows machine that you made as a server? Is it also running win server or normal win? What is your setup in terms of hdd's, ssd's and raid?

Hardware / Re: Monitor Recommendations
« on: 2021-10-09, 20:54:20 »
@Juraj - How do you think the PD3200U compares to the DELL U3219Q?

I have one U3219Q in the office and I wanted to try Benq (never tried a single monitor from the brand) so I am stuck between the older 3200U and the "newer" Dell (2016vs2019). The Dell is a bit more expensive around 200 euros but there is also the option of the much more expensive 3220U, that I don't think it's worth it.

Hardware / Re: Help with new solution
« on: 2021-10-02, 19:09:58 »
Price and performance wise I think you are better off with 1x3990x then with 2x3960x. I might be wrong do some research since prices tend to vary from country to country. You can call it with the U14S stock or you can put an Ice giant and clock it to 3.7ghz all core and get even more performance out of it (on the cheap). If you want to run PBO all day on the 3990x you will need a waterloop but consider that it will cost 3x times over the ice giant cooler.

Hardware / Re: Rtx 3060 12gb vs gtx 1080ti?
« on: 2021-10-02, 18:58:10 »
For best performance in 3d Max go for the 3060. Other than that depends on your budget and how much are you will to pay for a used card or a new one. In my country used gtx 1080ti go as high as new rtx 3060 so I would always but always get a new 3060 over a used 1080ti. Used 1080ti are 5-6 years old, god knows if you got a mining card or from someone who used it just for gaming...

If you want to run the 3990x with PBO a 1000w PSU is the bare minimum. Just for reference I tested my 3990x WS (cooled with a custom loop) with PBO turned on and it was pulling out around 880-920 watts out of the wall during rendering in Corona. The other 3990x is currently being used as a rendering node, clocked @ 3.7ghz all core and is pulling around 550 watts (cooled with the ice giant).

850w is ok if you are running on stock since on stock is pulling out around 370-390 watts when rendering. My guess is that it would pull out even more when gaming or in any task where you would use both your cpu and gpu at the same time.

Hardware / Re: AMZ Plug n play 3990x ?
« on: 2021-07-29, 10:54:31 »
At first glance, this looks at least 30% more expensive than it should be. I might be wrong but you can check that just by imputing the parts each one by one on amazon and calculating the total price.


The same thing happened to me on my 3990x. At some point, 10 cores were just idling at 0% usage while the rest of the cores were 100%. I rebooted the system and it worked correctly. I suppose it is a windows bug since I have the latest bios.

I suggest you try updating your bios to the latest version, check if your power settings are set to high performance as well. Usually, manual overclocking and PBO solve this issue but if you want to run it stock then start first with a bios update.

Hardware / Re: wanna build a PC for render (3DSMAX-corona )
« on: 2021-05-24, 15:39:33 »
Hi papia290. I would avoid going for the 1st Gen Threadripper. I don't know if you are budget tied but if you have an option to stretch out to a 2950x then defiantly do so. If you can avoid the 1st and 2nd gen Threadripper by any chance, I would suggest going for the 5950x Ryzen 9 cpu. It offers the same multicore performance as a 2970wx (24 core model) even though it has 16 core but it offers vastly superior performance in single thread.

If you decide to go the 5950x route and you are on a budget you can go for a B550 motherboard and save some money there. Good luck!

Hardware / Re: Laptop Suggestions
« on: 2021-05-19, 16:55:57 »
I have just seen recently the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro and the 7 Pro. They seem like a pretty sweet deal to be honest.

The price to performance ratio is great if you don't want to spend a lot of money. Obviously there are much more expensive options that are workstation-grade but I doubt you will get a lot more cpu performance (not more than 15%).  For the ram surely yes since there are options that offer 128gb but if you don't need that and if 64 is enough then this seems like the best option out there right now. Just check if they are capable of 64gb memory but I suppose they are with 2 sticks of 32.

What I liked about the new Legion was the 5800H Ryzen 8 core cpu, 16:10 aspect ratio screen that is QHD and 144hz capable (great if you want to game a bit and for productivity), screen is also 500 nits, rtx 3000 series gpu and if you can go over the gamery look of the 5 pro of course. But you always have the option of the 7 Pro that looks plainer and office alike. Bear in mind that these laptops are a tad bit heavy though :).

Hardware / Re: Threadripper 3990x vs 3970x
« on: 2021-05-05, 19:35:48 »

I see your point and thanks for sharing these videos they are informative. I also agree with what you say about not testing short and fast benchmarks like the Corona one but I am also sure that the performance in Corona vs Blender is not the same. And that the cpu effective clocks don't behave the same. I can't say with certainty because I don't use Blender myself but from all the benchmarks seen thus far with different types of processors they just don't seem to scale the same way ( Corona and the Blender rendering engine ).

I ordered an Ice Giant cooler a few days ago and I should be getting it any day. Will conduct the same tests you did only in Corona and in a real-world scenario using a big project scene to see what is the difference. As soon as I have something interesting I will post it on the forum when I grab some time :).

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