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General Category => Gallery => Topic started by: Dollmaker on 2016-09-16, 11:11:29

Title: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Dollmaker on 2016-09-16, 11:11:29
Hi,

This is a 360 Image of my project which was released earlier. On Facebook it works fine, I am not sure how to make it work on forums :)

Made with Sketchup, 3Ds Max, Corona :)

Catch me on FB: https://www.facebook.com/SachinMahajanVisuals/

Thanks and have a nice day :)
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: JacopoGrosso on 2016-09-16, 12:22:26
I saw your render on facebook and it's really good :) I like this style
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: maru on 2016-09-16, 15:35:02
These 360 panos are springing up like mushrooms, but personally I enjoy each one of them! :)
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: fellazb on 2016-09-17, 01:07:27
These 360 panos are springing up like mushrooms, but personally I enjoy each one of them! :)

Yes, looks like it'll become a standard for complete 3d scenes in sales advertising.

On topic: Really nice, especially when you see it fullscreen. The floor could use some more texturing\shading to give it more depth.
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Fritzlachatte on 2016-09-18, 11:28:30
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Yes, looks like it'll become a standard for complete 3d scenes in sales advertising.

I hope not, a perfectly chosen point of view reflecting the "right moment" and light is telling much more of a short story then a 360 rendering which feels somehow soulless, with a lack of elegant "bellezza"

I know that many people will have another opinion, but for me it appears more as a VR hype, quite envogue , but more a toy for grownups with techaffinity.

Although this is one of the best 360 pictures I have seen in the past. But Dollmakers pictures demonstrate, that every image from the same scene, as a piece of his own novel, is more atmospheric combined with the aseptic 360version  ... imho :-)   
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: burnin on 2016-09-18, 13:05:02
Dream on.
First time a client will mention "just a small edit", there's a bullet to your head... try to ad a human or a cat in, even adding flairs start to become a problem (you just can't composite a flat image onto distorted one). So first somebody will have to make post editing software work with distorted/spherical canvas. For the last 5 years this has just been a nice addition to established workflow (for anyone willing to pay more, which in reality are not many), nothing more.
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Fritzlachatte on 2016-09-18, 13:40:41
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Dream on.
:-)

good point just the phrase " just a small edit" makes me goosebumps. (https://media.giphy.com/media/eCLe22tOkYfTi/giphy.gif)


...followed by "you have this small little plant in the left corner, it is a nice one, but...

Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Juraj on 2016-09-18, 14:45:42
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Yes, looks like it'll become a standard for complete 3d scenes in sales advertising.

I hope not, a perfectly chosen point of view reflecting the "right moment" and light is telling much more of a short story then a 360 rendering which feels somehow soulless, with a lack of elegant "bellezza"

I know that many people will have another opinion, but for me it appears more as a VR hype, quite envogue , but more a toy for grownups with techaffinity.

Although this is one of the best 360 pictures I have seen in the past. But Dollmakers pictures demonstrate, that every image from the same scene, as a piece of his own novel, is more atmospheric combined with the aseptic 360version  ... imho :-)   

Are we brothers ? This captures my exact opinion on this.
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: romullus on 2016-09-18, 15:00:02
Dream on.
First time a client will mention "just a small edit", there's a bullet to your head... try to ad a human or a cat in, even adding flairs start to become a problem (you just can't composite a flat image onto distorted one). So first somebody will have to make post editing software work with distorted/spherical canvas. For the last 5 years this has just been a nice addition to established workflow (for anyone willing to pay more, which in reality are not many), nothing more.

Spherical panoramas existed long before it gained popularity in 3D renders. Photographers been doing this for years and there's plenty convenient methods to edit 360 images by converting equirectangular projection to rectilinear and then back to spherical. And with Corona it's even easier - just region render with spherical camera mod and paste edited part in photoshop. No problem whatsoever.
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Juraj on 2016-09-18, 15:08:49
I've been editing some spherical hdri imagery past week, didn't find the methods exactly 'convenient' to be honest.
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: burnin on 2016-09-18, 20:25:19
No, there are no convenient post-pro tools, yet.
Yes, it is possible to make anything, for sure.
As the mobile (phone) VR gets democratized & Adobe decides to make a spherical canvas then convenience will start to happen.
For now, best is being experienced with deep compositing and start dwelling into Nuke with Cara VR.


Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Ondra on 2016-09-18, 20:42:57
360 photoshop!
brb getting seed funding :D
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: romullus on 2016-09-18, 23:40:21
Sure, when you get used to one simplicity of Corona, everything else feels inconvenient and cumbersome :]
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Fritzlachatte on 2016-09-19, 10:16:54
these are all just workarounds ( no cheap joke in this context :-) Adobe might offer sometime a kind of unwrap and my example with a plant in the corner might be easy to fix beacuse today everything is more 3d and less postprocessing with smearing around in photoshop. So rendering a region with another model is not such a big topic, but if it is throwing shadows all over the picture, it will be.

But this is only the technical part, I insist on my opinion 360 is cold, somehow trivial and feels "off colour" like Gaspar Noe´s - Enter the void, when leaving the dead body.
Just no charming story behind. 

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Are we brothers ?
So yes and we must have been divided a long time ago, I already ranted at my parents. 
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Dollmaker on 2016-09-21, 16:43:34
I made it simply because my client was saying that his clients are asking for 360 and we needed a sample :) I am not a 360 fan.. and Yeap picture can tell a great story then 360.. :) But well.. if someone want it.. They goona get it ;)
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Juraj on 2016-09-21, 19:33:01
What I am worried, I always use cameras 2 meters behind a wall :- D What I am gonna do in 360 ? Admit suddenly the apartment is small shit ?
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: PROH on 2016-09-21, 20:21:51
Yes :) And then feel sure it won't be used for sales purposes....

You simply can't compare 360 panos with traditional picture making. Both have their strength and weakness, and they fulfill different needs. 360 panos won't (and can't) replace the traditional picture making, but is (just) another tool in the toolbox, that will give the viewer another experience of the space.

As someone already pointed out, it's not a totally new thing, but it has never been easier to use (for both maker and user) than now, and I'm pretty sure it won't go away soon. We just have to learn/teach when and how to use it.

Regards
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: fellazb on 2016-09-21, 23:24:07


You simply can't compare 360 panos with traditional picture making. Both have their strength and weakness, and they fulfill different needs. 360 panos won't (and can't) replace the traditional picture making, but is (just) another tool in the toolbox, that will give the viewer another experience of the space.

As someone already pointed out, it's not a totally new thing, but it has never been easier to use (for both maker and user) than now, and I'm pretty sure it won't go away soon. We just have to learn/teach when and how to use it.

Regards

Exactly, couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: moadr on 2016-09-22, 18:02:47
What I love is when we are done with a project, we have done a couple of images for an apartment and later on the client decides that they would like to also have a pano-tour. If there is magic in the world than to make those work is definitely one of them! :D
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: lasse1309 on 2016-09-29, 10:37:56
What I am worried, I always use cameras 2 meters behind a wall :- D What I am gonna do in 360 ? Admit suddenly the apartment is small shit ?

lol, this indeed is the biggest problem :)
apartments not getting bigger but more expensive, 360 could be too "transparent" and show the weaknesses too bluntly.
Real estate sellers are not willing to risk too much if the client already is in their office. they want to prepare they buyer much more
sensitive for the the tiny kitchen or the dark bathroom with no space for washing machine..
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Adi on 2016-09-29, 18:29:53
I'm not a fan of 360 images but this one is really beautiful :) may i ask what u used for lightning ?
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Dippndots on 2016-09-30, 16:30:28
Does anyone have a preference for online viewers for 360deg images? The one that facebook introduced is really nice.
Title: Re: Nordhemsgatan 67 B / 360
Post by: Dollmaker on 2016-10-04, 17:32:35
I'm not a fan of 360 images but this one is really beautiful :) may i ask what u used for lightning ?

Lighting was HDRI :)