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Title: Minotti space
Post by: eduard.caliman on 2014-06-04, 13:28:47
Hi guys, I have been admiring for quite a while the Minotti style and spent a lot of time in awe just browsing their website. The initial idea was to only showcase the Hamilton sofa that I modeled using 3DS Max (for the metal structure) and Marvelous Designer for the cushions, but as the space was taking shape I wanted to furtherly expand it to reach the balcony and also to a dinning area present right from the living space.

Let me know what you guys think.

Cheers !

(http://imageshack.com/a/img838/3168/ezsmd.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img844/8307/bg55.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img838/4113/7h0jz.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img845/6836/p8uvt.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img834/8720/wywq.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img835/5219/sbvt.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img837/9996/9f2i.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img841/2605/w2i5.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img839/8064/0c6y.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img842/7251/l51op.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img845/3734/bwno.jpg)
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: Juraj on 2014-06-04, 13:51:49
Brutal Eduardo !! Pretty stunning :- )
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: eduard.caliman on 2014-06-04, 13:56:57
: ) Thanks Juraj... I appreciate it !
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Post by: crazyman on 2014-06-04, 14:09:43
Fantastic. Is bloom is post or raw?
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: eduard.caliman on 2014-06-04, 14:11:25
Fantastic. Is bloom is post or raw?

Hi there crazyman. I'm glad you enjoy them. The bloom effect was done in post in Photoshop.
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: subpixelsk on 2014-06-04, 14:25:27
awesome!! do you by any chance plan to do making of? I´d be mainly interested in material setups :)
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Post by: michaltimko on 2014-06-04, 14:30:33
Very nice renders! I dont like terrace shots tbh. Mood and rendering "quality" reminds me Maxwell renders from Markus Otto :)
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Post by: awaismalik on 2014-06-04, 15:08:47
Great renders! 0 noise wow
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Post by: Chakib on 2014-06-04, 15:40:55
Om nomnomnom my eyes are eating your renders :D awesome renders !
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: jonas007 on 2014-06-04, 15:44:14
Ola para quem possivelmente falar portugues!  e Hello for everybody in english , id liked to put here a question about corona, ive been working in  vray for a long time, i use it for interior and exterior rendering, im not a expert in the business sometimes i think my images dont have enough quality to even have a discussion with somebody, in the modeling area or even in the vray rendering area.
  the problem is in the business im in, i dont have more than 45 minutes render time for each image, things must be done on the fly, and vray with some low settings does the job sometimes in less time, as you can figure, there is no post production no photoshop, just images to explain what whe want for decoration, or furniture  execution.
     Sometimes i think im lazy, but i want to know is it worse to spend time with this renderer, i think it is, it is a beautiful peace o software and the images wonderful, i done some tests but i couldnt achieve "realistic"  images with the standart settings (still spending some time with it )  so i ask could someone share some knowledge from is experience with corona to achieve the best results in 45 minutes rendering.

For example what where your settings in corona in this images , any tricks , how mutch time to achieve this "clean" image.
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: steyin on 2014-06-04, 16:32:39
Great renders. Love the feel of the space an its components.
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Post by: klipanos on 2014-06-04, 17:04:47
Very nice!!!!Welldone!!!!
I would like to know the render times for that "0" noise ... if you please...
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: yagi on 2014-06-04, 17:13:17
all i see is a bunch of photos....where are the renders pls? :)
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Post by: daniel.reutersward on 2014-06-04, 17:49:59
Really great renders!!
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Post by: 3ds-shaman on 2014-06-04, 23:20:29
Amazing))) You are my idol!
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: eduard.caliman on 2014-06-05, 00:25:37
Hi guys, thanks again for your precious feedback.
Hi klipanos, I left the renders over night but after about 3/4 hours they were pretty much noiseless. The settings were left at their default values so not much to say there. As a light source I used one of Peter Guthrie's hdris.
johnymrazko Not sure if I will do a complete making of but I will happily post some info on the shaders even though they were pretty basic.
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: Utroll on 2014-06-05, 08:17:18
Wow Super !!

Just to say something ~constructive~ I would say that objects on carpet should be more 'into' it... on your first image wheels of the table for example. And the turquoise things on balcony (ashtrays?) are somewhat oldschool CG compare to your whole texturing skills... But that's really to complain about something :D It kickasses
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: kry on 2014-06-05, 11:40:58
Omg..
Its amazing !!!
GREAT WORK !
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Post by: jjaz82 on 2014-06-05, 12:57:55
wow.. i love Minotti's style. it's elegant vintage mood.
great work.. amazing cure of detail.. compliments
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: orsobruno on 2014-06-05, 12:59:07
Hi!!! As the others said, WELL DONE, everything is very beautiful and incredibly realistic!! especially the carpet :)
About that could you please tell us your shader's setting about the carpet?
I'm trying to make it similar, once, but I always gat a "not natural" feeling, I made it look better after I switch to the hair and fur modifier, instead of making it with displacement+bump map....but the render time, and the ram usage.. increased quite a bit...
Again, very nice image :)
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: HLeandre on 2014-06-05, 13:02:07
Really great renders !
Please can you talk more about your lighting settings and materials ?
Thanks
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Post by: zhangjx511 on 2014-06-05, 16:01:47
I ask you this next chart rendering time? What computer configuration is?
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: eduard.caliman on 2014-06-05, 16:49:09
Hi guys, thank a lot for your comments !

orsobruno For the carpet I had tested various methods, initially I used displacement which performed very well, but since I needed quite a few subdivisions the scene as a whole resolved a bit slower. I have then tried out multiscatter and got very good results with it too but again the high number of instances needed slowed down the scene. The last test that I had done was using the bump map. I had put in the bump slot a composite layer containing a mix between two maps, 1 very tiled map for the finer details and one larger map created from the diffuse map. This has allowed me to save more time during the rendering process and also to get noiseless renders quicker. Obviously since the bump is only a fake effect I had to be careful about the camera angle and the proximity to the rug. In some higher res crops of the rug one can notice the fakeness of the bump but for the resolution and camera views that I intended to render the bump worked just fine.
Will definitely keep trying to use Multiscatter some more and/or Forest Pack in the creation of rugs, but I just need to figure out a smart way to get less geometry intersected which will result in less instances needed.

HLeandre My lighthing consisted of only 1 of Peter Guthrie's HDRI, and also a different HDRI just for the background and in some shots reflection. As for the materials I will post tonight some screenshots, maybe the one for the cushions' fabric, the rug and concrete.

zhangjx511 My computer configuration consists of 2x Intel Xeon X5650 @2.66 GHz and 24 GB of Ram and 1 Nvidia Quadro 600 with 1 GB (can't wait to upgrade this last one as it's quite dated).

Utroll I agree with that.. will try to fix that in future renders.

Again thank you all for you interest and feedback !
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: eduard.caliman on 2014-06-06, 00:04:17
As promised here are some screenshots of the materials:

RUG

A very simple one, the prerequisite here was to have good enough maps. The settings were very simple, bump at 1 and that's it.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img838/4869/zj8f.jpg)

CONCRETE

To get to the bump map of a texture what I usually do is desaturate the image and then apply a Levels correction similar to the one below. Note how the sliders are placed at the beggining, middle and end of the colour information inside the histogram, that way one creates a texture that is easy to manipulate in 3DS Max using the various blending modes in the Composite map (usually Multiply and/or Screen in my case) as you will see below. A good advice would be not to go over the information in the histogram too much so that you don't clip and lose valuable colour information.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img845/7523/gjcr.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img842/6042/gt8q.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img849/6905/n2w2.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img838/1333/xnkn.jpg)

CUSHION FABRIC

I hope this one will not be too confusing. I tried my best to make it as comprehensible as possible. Let me know if you have any questions on it.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img838/2718/9dyv7.jpg)

That's it guys, I hope you enjoyed the tips.
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: klipanos on 2014-06-06, 00:49:02
Thank's a lot!!!
Just Perfect!!!
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: ecximer on 2014-06-06, 08:25:13
Oho!
Oh, damn! It simply chic! 0_O
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: lacilaci on 2014-06-06, 09:16:53
When i grow up, i want to be just like you :D lol... Great stuff..!
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: nehale on 2014-06-06, 09:31:07
Wow, do you mind also posting the raw renders with no post work?
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Post by: Tanakov on 2014-06-06, 09:34:16
Your work has been highlited on Coronas FB, congrats! Its a big deal! Congrats!
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: Mohammadreza Mohseni on 2014-06-06, 09:43:39
amazing work. congratulation

...Mohammadreza Mohseni...
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: demos6 on 2014-06-06, 11:32:13
First of all great work.

This is one of works that is making me want to try Corona and it because of that that when I read  this article:

http://inspirations.cgrecord.net/2014/06/minotti-space.html

I was admired that it says that you did in Vray, probably it was a misunderstood or assumption of cgrecords part, maybe you can rectify it.

Keep up the good work.

Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: Stan_But on 2014-06-07, 02:33:43
Which kind of photocamera you used to shoot these pretty photos? ;)
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: animraju07 on 2014-06-07, 18:53:57
your works are outstanding. your mood of lighting is very nice. I found one uwv mistake in which u have done the table with books. I don't know that is mistake that is design. Then that table has more reflection i felt. sorry for my english.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: eduard.caliman on 2014-06-07, 20:01:31
your works are outstanding. your mood of lighting is very nice. I found one uwv mistake in which u have done the table with books. I don't know that is mistake that is design. Then that table has more reflection i felt. sorry for my english.

Thank you.

Hi there animraju07 I am glad that you enjoy the visuals. I agree on the reflection being too intense but not on the uvws as the table is divided into 3 sections (http://imageshack.com/a/img853/1884/jdu3.jpg (http://imageshack.com/a/img853/1884/jdu3.jpg))
Cheers !
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: hrvojezg00 on 2014-06-09, 08:31:34
extremy good, as I said on behance! where did you get this high res image of carpet?
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Post by: radiosity on 2014-06-09, 15:52:56
wonderful work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: peterguthrie on 2014-06-11, 13:22:21
beautiful work Eduard! did you get my email?
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Post by: Adi on 2014-06-11, 21:22:53
Holy F , those are TRULY AMAZING  :)
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Post by: lasse1309 on 2014-06-12, 10:46:57
Brutal Eduardo !! Pretty stunning :- )
nothing to add!
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: eduard.caliman on 2014-06-12, 12:54:02
Hi guys, thank you so much for your comments :)
peterguthrie I am glad you enjoy them :), unfortunately I haven't got your email, not sure why. What email address did you send it to?
hrvojezg00 I am constantly on the web looking for websites that share high res textures of their products, whether they be nice patterns, fabrics, or rugs. Some good ones are:
www.carpetvista.it (http://www.carpetvista.it)  www.crucial-trading.com/ (http://www.crucial-trading.com/)  www.overstock.com (http://www.overstock.com)
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: jhindley on 2014-06-12, 14:10:45
STUNNING WORK

The materials are beautiful and you really capture the essence of Minotti, such a shame they went bust
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Post by: jonofj on 2014-06-17, 00:04:42
super renders, I like them.
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Post by: orsobruno on 2014-06-26, 12:25:42
Thank you very much Eduard!! your tips about the carpet will be very useful to me! i only need to find a good texture at this point :) did you get your on a site, or are they custom made? any way, thank you again for your tips, and for your attention in detailing them!!
Title: Re: Minotti space
Post by: pmcf1981 on 2014-06-29, 11:34:26
eduard.caliman good f... work :)

can you share printscreen of pt + pt config ?

thks :)

pedro
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Post by: deneb26 on 2014-07-01, 22:58:14
Awesome! Like real studio shots. Just perfect!
And thanks for the little insight look for the material-creation.

Ale