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Chaos Corona for 3ds Max => [Max] Bug Reporting => Topic started by: Bormax on 2019-06-12, 22:24:54

Title: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: Bormax on 2019-06-12, 22:24:54
Hi
Corona 4, Max 2014
Merging objects during IR is crashing Max

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Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: rowmanns on 2019-06-13, 10:14:45
Hi,

Thanks for reporting, we are aware of this issue and investigating it.

Thanks,

Rowan

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Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: Bormax on 2019-07-18, 07:55:02
Hi
Any news about solution for this issue?
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: maru on 2019-07-18, 10:57:20
No news yet, sorry. We will be sure to update this thread.
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: Jpjapers on 2019-07-19, 11:52:28
Hopefully soon, this is really detrimental to being able to work quickly.
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: rowmanns on 2019-07-22, 09:07:47
Hi,

At the moment the work around is to stop the IR before merging the object and then restarting it afterwards.

We'll let you know when we have some more information.

Thanks,

Rowan

Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: Bormax on 2019-10-28, 22:15:57
Hello

Corona 5 RC2 is already released, but this bug is still here (tested also on Max 2016 and 2019)...
Do you plan to solve it in Corona 5, or it's better to get used to stop IR every time before merging (which I really don't like)? At the moment I still use Corona 4 RC3 only because I use merging very often in my workflow and this is the last version of Corona which can do that with no crash wile IR is active
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: rowmanns on 2019-10-29, 11:17:53
Hi,

Unfortunately I am unable to give any timescales on when bugs will be resolved.

We are aware that this one is reported frequently however it is proving quite problematic to fix, but we are working on it.

Cheers,

Rowan
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: quizzy on 2019-11-06, 09:35:15
corona 5 in max 2017 is worse as in corona 4.

While in 4, max just crashed and you could save a _recover max file, now 3dsmax completely hangs, without the option to save.

A lot of artists, myself included, may rely heavy on the CTRL-V  CTRL-C  script, which uses a merge file method.

I'm sure that this is an easy fix, so please make this a priority.
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: rowmanns on 2019-11-06, 10:03:53
Hi,

I can assure you that we are working on this, I understand how frustrating this is.

However if it was an easy fix we would have already fixed it.

Rowan
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: quizzy on 2019-11-06, 10:31:30
i'm sure compared to writing a complete awesome renderer, this should be easy.. ;-)

I've just added a maxscript line to the copy-paste script, before it merges the file:

CoronaRenderer.CoronaFp.stoprender()

This will stop the interactive renderer before merging.
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: Bormax on 2019-11-08, 23:45:52
i'm sure compared to writing a complete awesome renderer, this should be easy.. ;-)

I've just added a maxscript line to the copy-paste script, before it merges the file:

CoronaRenderer.CoronaFp.stoprender()

This will stop the interactive renderer before merging.

Thank you for this line! I've tried it and it works well for Copy/Past script. Probably the same kind of line(s) could be added to Copitor script which  I used to use and which is very effective for merging a lot of objects from different scenes. Unfortunately I'm absolute zero in scripting and I don't know how to do that, so I'm going to use modified Copy/Past script with Corona 5 until this problem with merging during IR will be solved
Title: Old "Max crash when Importing models while interactive is on" question .
Post by: hldemi on 2020-02-01, 14:24:30
I just wanted to know if there are any updates on this problem solution ( sick of turning IR off, all the time ). Is it maybe possible for it to be solved in upcoming Corona 6 ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Old "Max crash when Importing models while interactive is on" question .
Post by: Naxos on 2020-02-01, 20:00:24
+1

I always forget, and max crashes, and i have to redo whatever was not saved / autosaved...

Regards.
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: rowmanns on 2020-02-03, 14:56:24
Hi,

We are still working on this one, I am unable to give any timescales.

Thanks,

Rowan
Title: Re: Old "Max crash when Importing models while interactive is on" question .
Post by: Bormax on 2020-02-03, 15:07:10
+1

I always forget, and max crashes, and i have to redo whatever was not saved / autosaved...

Regards.

I'm now working with Daily build 01-27-2020 - it stops IR automatically if I merge something. Yes, I have to start IR again after merging, but at least it doesn't crash Max.  Newer build is out, but I didn't try it yet
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: hldemi on 2020-02-03, 15:31:52
Hi,

We are still working on this one, I am unable to give any timescales.

Thanks,

Rowan

That means a lot to me. That you guys at Corona didnt give up on this. Looking forward to the day this gets resolved.
Title: Re: Old "Max crash when Importing models while interactive is on" question .
Post by: hldemi on 2020-02-03, 15:33:10
+1

I always forget, and max crashes, and i have to redo whatever was not saved / autosaved...

Regards.

I'm now working with Daily build 01-27-2020 - it stops IR automatically if I merge something. Yes, I have to start IR again after merging, but at least it doesn't crash Max.  Newer build is out, but I didn't try it yet

Thats sounds great. At least I dont have to keep one more thing in mind while I think about hundred other things while working.
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: info@buildest.it on 2020-05-22, 16:26:42
I have the same problem (corona 5 3ds max 2021) only corona 3 works fine.
Please solve bugs quikly!!!!
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: hldemi on 2020-06-13, 12:10:55
I have the same problem (corona 5 3ds max 2021) only corona 3 works fine.
Please solve bugs quikly!!!!

Everybody is having this bug since Corona 3 as far as I know. If anyone does not , I would like to know .
This also seems like insanely hard to fix since it takes so long. I cannot fathom why but I trust Corona team that its hard. Those bugs are not intuitive in their complexity to solve.
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: rowmanns on 2020-06-15, 08:48:48
Hi guys,

I know this one is taking a while to fix, but we did not forget about it.

In the v6 daily builds there is a partial fix/workaround for this. The IR will automatically stop when the objects are merged, so this will avoid the crash.

I will let you know when I have some further updates about this.

Cheers,

Rowan
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: pokoy on 2020-06-15, 09:52:54
I have the same problem (corona 5 3ds max 2021) only corona 3 works fine.
Please solve bugs quikly!!!!

Everybody is having this bug since Corona 3 as far as I know. If anyone does not , I would like to know .
This also seems like insanely hard to fix since it takes so long. I cannot fathom why but I trust Corona team that its hard. Those bugs are not intuitive in their complexity to solve.

I don't really understand why people expect merging to be a trivial thing in 3ds max, let alone Corona to handle it. Max has a notoriously hyperactive notification system that runs all the time and sends info forth and back all the time and is triggered almost all the time without a reason. It includes all areas when merging - file i/o, geometry, modifiers, lights, controllers, animation and keyframes, materials and maps, even the UI seems to be involved. Expecting Corona to run smoothly while merging and perform perfectly is maybe too much.
Also, there are minor changes between each version of Max. Something that worked in 2016 won't work in 2019 or 2020, and it's perfectly possible that the Corona team is not even aware of these changes because some of them may be undocumented. Or there could be bugs that no one knows about yet, why would you expect the Corona team to work around stuff when they just can't? They will probably never be able to catch up, and it may not be within their power anyway.

Please guys, stop expecting the impossible and just accept that stopping the IR by yourself prior to merging is probably the most reasonable thing to do. It's not that much of an inconvenience, is it? Let the team focus on other things instead.
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: hldemi on 2020-06-18, 21:31:15
Hi guys,

I know this one is taking a while to fix, but we did not forget about it.

In the v6 daily builds there is a partial fix/workaround for this. The IR will automatically stop when the objects are merged, so this will avoid the crash.

I will let you know when I have some further updates about this.

Cheers,

Rowan

Thanks. This is actually all the fix I need. Since often I get so excited and into creating the scene that I just forget to stop IR and then I lose part of progress and have to restart the max. Its frustrating. The way you describe part fix is all I need. Cant wait for Version 6. So happy now.
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: hldemi on 2020-06-18, 21:36:25
Pokoy

Listen, 3ds max is same for all render engines and yet all other engines merge fine with IR open. So its only logical to expect same from the exception.  Its big inconvenience at least for me. My workflow revolves around stopping and starting IR over 100 times during the each scene making and its big distraction from what I do. I need to be concentrated on creation of art and not to worry too much over something that can crash my scene in each of these 100 instances. So speak for yourself.
Title: Re: Merging objects during IR is crashing Max
Post by: NazarVitkovskyi on 2023-02-17, 10:41:44
Duplicated with:
https://corona-renderer.com/forum/index.php?topic=24868.0
https://corona-renderer.com/forum/index.php?topic=25073.0
https://corona-renderer.com/forum/index.php?topic=25058.0
https://corona-renderer.com/forum/index.php?topic=25277.0
https://corona-renderer.com/forum/index.php?topic=25629.0
https://corona-renderer.com/forum/index.php?topic=26094.0
https://corona-renderer.com/forum/index.php?topic=26593.0
https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?topic=30679.0

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