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2016-11-10, 11:42:40
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transfer missing assets, adaptivity, pre-started 3dsmax, bugfixes, better ui, faster cleanup after render, and few more things

Very much hope for node checkboxes :)
So you can render on selected nodes only instead of every node that has DR server running? Yes, please!

Yup exactly. Very important for us.
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2016-11-10, 13:18:48
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Rendering is magic.How to get minidumps for crashed/frozen 3ds Max | Sorry for short replies, brief responses = more time to develop Corona ;)

2016-11-10, 13:21:59
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1.6 roadmap: https://trello.com/b/EfPE4kPx/corona-road-map-3ds-max

Looks awesome!!  great work!  can't wait for the next daily build!

2016-11-10, 13:37:28
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Same here!

There are some fixes/features that have been postponed regularly and were supposed to ship with 1.4, 1.5 or 1.6 but I don't see them on the planned feature list for 1.6:

Improve CoronaLayerMtl (most important would be that the mask amount spinner should work with a mask being present), thread:
https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php/topic,12085.0.html

Override Material, ability to preserve more properties than Mtl opacity only, threads:
https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php/topic,8912.0.html
https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php/topic,11864.0.html

More advanced DOF effects/optical abberations, threads:
https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php/topic,12233.0.html
https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php/topic,4980.0.html

Which of these could make it into 1.6? If none, can these get up high(er) on the list?

2016-11-10, 13:51:22
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We will of course do more than just what is listed on trello, those are the major things. I want to actually focus on the smaller things, which means implementing everything from this list, perhaps except DOF effects - those are new features, we now want to improve+stabilize existing features
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2016-11-10, 14:05:04
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We will of course do more than just what is listed on trello, those are the major things. I want to actually focus on the smaller things, which means implementing everything from this list, perhaps except DOF effects - those are new features, we now want to improve+stabilize existing features
Great - many thanks!

DOF would be the cream on top, but if it's coming after 1.6 it will be good enough.

2016-11-10, 14:16:15
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we now want to improve+stabilize existing features

Honey for my eyes.

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2016-11-10, 15:00:10
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1.6 roadmap: https://trello.com/b/EfPE4kPx/corona-road-map-3ds-max

Holly cow! Looks like 1.6 will be yet another great release. There's bunch of very nice things on this roadmap :]
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2016-11-10, 15:17:39
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We will of course do more than just what is listed on trello, those are the major things. I want to actually focus on the smaller things, which means implementing everything from this list, perhaps except DOF effects - those are new features, we now want to improve+stabilize existing features

Sounds awesome!  any planned ETA on when we can expect a new daily with the improved HDRI sampling? I'm really curious to compare.

2016-11-10, 15:54:39
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we need to stabilize it a bit, then it will be released - next week probably
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2016-11-10, 16:14:33
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we need to stabilize it a bit, then it will be released - next week probably

Awesome! thanks for letting us know, even if it takes a bit longer.  <3

2016-11-10, 16:23:51
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Can't wait for 1.6 to be released! Ondra do you think it's possible to implement a focus picker inside vfb in 1.6? I already made a topic on request forum but had no feedback, it's one of those small things but makes a huge difference in the daily workflow!

2016-11-10, 16:57:51
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Speaking of improving and stabilizing - there is one thing which bothers me for quite a while and it is the sampling of lights and GI which they produce when those are put behind the glass both solid (refractive) and thin alike.
 Recently I've been struggling with one scene which had fully modelled interior with furniture lights etc. + sun and sky + some lighmix combinations to represent the different lighting conditions - well the usual stuff. At some point I needed to do some exterior shots of the place and I had run into tremendous amounts of noise which was very persistent in the interior visible through the windows when it was rendered from outside and the lighmix pass combo's were set to represent either night or evening lights. I did some testing cause I've got a hunch that it has something to do with the way corona's gi sorts the priority\importance of lights based on their brightness and so sun and sky being around 100% more bright than any physically correctly setup interior light source takes away all the samples\priority\whatever leaving other light sources only tiny leftovers of that. Guess what, it seems, that was the right hunch, and after lowering both sun and sky intensities to 0.01 I've been able to get much cleaner interior in MUCH less time - here's some examples of the similar situation reproduced in a clean scene and hopefully clean conditions :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/119850875@N05/30780770972/in/datetaken-public/

and the same both renders with lighmix set up to represent the day with the interior lights off

https://www.flickr.com/photos/119850875@N05/30261488543/in/datetaken-public/

Anyone wanting to check more of those tests and different passes saved out of those is welcome to explore this - https://www.flickr.com/photos/119850875@N05/albums/72157676287977736 album - I've done a couple of tests with different glass settings and without the glass at all, adaptivity on\off etc. the naming of files should be self evident I hope. Pay close attention to the sampling focus passes (SF) and how they differ across the different setups.

I'm almost sure it's not the best way of dealing with such conditions, physical correctness, energy conservations etc. wise, and of course it would be better if corona's GI system could\would be tweaked internally to alleviate the need of such stupid methods but it still helps me a lot to get those renders cleaner and much faster, and I'm most sure it will benefit many people who struggle with such setups as well, mainly because that nasty noise will not go away even if those images will be rendered for an hour or so, which I tried of course even if not in this particular test scene.
I wasn't sure how and where to put this report as this, most probably, is not a bug at all but is something more like a trick or just some needed internal tweak + I'm not completely sure (and who can be))it's not something wrong on my end thus it might be best if someone could reproduce such behavior too and report it too. And there's another thing inside those tests which is ligh source's disk shape being invisible behind refractive glass and visible when thin(non refracting) glass is used  but that's not too big of a deal cause no one usually leaves those exposed such as here, yet still there it is ... So hoping I didn't make a fool out of myself again I post my findings here ))

Actually, It is quite easy to reproduce and everyone can test it for themselves but I'm still attaching that test scene (max 2017 and 2015) with both default and lowered sun and sky values + those lighmix pass presets for each of the scenes - no textures were harmed in the making of that test scene and the only ies file used in it is the default one which comes with 3ds max and was there for ages so hopefully it will be picked up automatically.
« Last Edit: 2016-11-10, 17:25:07 by antanas »

2016-11-11, 08:31:55
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So you can render on selected nodes only instead of every node that has DR server running? Yes, please!

? It has always been like this and I never use DR in a different way. But it´s cumbersome to hash out nodes all the time "by hand", see

https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php/topic,8829.msg57273.html#msg57273
(for some reason my mantis request and many others were moved to the forum last year, maybe for a more public discussion)

Meanwhile I would definitely prefer the mental ray style because you don´t need to click exactly a tiny checkbox but can use the whole line for selecting. Let´s see...

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2016-11-11, 11:19:28
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Is the HDRI sampling speed up just limited to HDRI or will the skydome also see a speedup if rendering without a sun?