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Messages - Nejc Kilar

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Hey Nejc - i thinkj we h ave the same machine (5995xw).  Are you thinking of upgrading?  id love to but what to do with the existing beast?

Indeed, I guess we needed Intel for AMD to do something :)

Maybe just to clarify my post there, TR5-SP6 is the socket for both PRO and HEDT parts. TRX50 is the chipset for HEDT and WRX90 is the chipset for PRO.
PRO TRs do work with TRX50 motherboards.

Yes sir, same machine with the same performance and the same hole in the wallet too! :)

Hm hm, I have just recently assembled another dual Epyc node for myself (2x 7B13, 256 threads, used of course :) ) so I honestly don't see the need to upgrade to anything at the moment. The 7980x seems mighty fine but ultimately if I cut down my IR times from 10s to 7s I don't really think it would be worth it for me right now given that I have 4 machines that can render 24/7.

If I didn't have a small render farm in my office then yes, I think I'd definitely invest in a 7980x (and the 5995wx would be an amazing render node) but for me right now the only gain would be the 30-50% IR speed up - the actual final renders are done plenty fast on the other machines.

Don't get me wrong, I am very tempted about the IR speed up but realistically, dropping another ~7000€ is a) too expensive for me right now and b) I'd more or less be paying that much money for the IR speed gains only.

So yeah, that is my situation and it is kinda specific. The 7980x, 7970x and 7960x all look really great to me and my thinking is that if you could use a 5995wx render node then splurging on a next gen Threadripper is gonna be great for you :) If you do that then please report back on how fine it all is :))

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Gallery / Re: Blok Studio Showreel 2023
« on: 2023-11-24, 13:27:29 »
Super cool and very tastefully done imho, thank you for sharing!

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Howdy! I would +1 James Vella here and would suggest first running the Corona benchmark just so we are sure your machine is performing as it should. Those 192GB of RAM on the AM5 platform might be affecting performance but we won't know for sure until we can validate the score with other 7950x machines.

It is a beast of a CPU for sure though :)

Also, glad you're partaking in the Academy. Hope you're enjoying it!

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[C4D] I need help! / Re: artifacts on step files import
« on: 2023-11-08, 12:55:07 »
Hmm, are you by any chance referring to the "terminator handling" options under Developmental / Experimental menu?

What I typically do in these situations myself is I delete (dissolve) most of the CAD edges that traverse the flat surfaces of the mesh. Then I add in random plane cuts near any curved surfaces - really sloppily, just so the topology changes a bit and there are a few more support loops in there. That typically helps, at least on my end.

You can also try playing with deleting the normal tag and playing with the phong angle. Retopology generators tend to work fine as well although it depends on the type of CAD mesh you're dealing with.

On thing that is still on my personal to-do list is to see how the new phong tag weighting options affect things in Cinema 4D 2024. That seems to me like it would be the easiest solution :)

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Off-Topic / Re: Corona vfb spinnig smiley face icon
« on: 2023-11-06, 13:29:50 »
:)
Thank you very much!

Just out of pure curiosity, if you don't mind sharing, why do you need it? :)
I wanted to use it in my nickname in the Telegram messenger. Ended up making one by myself in AE :)

haha, cool cool! Glad you got it ... rolling :)

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Hardware / Re: Ryzen 5995XW Build & some issues
« on: 2023-10-31, 11:28:24 »
Huh, interesting. I suppose DOCP or not it doesn't really matter for you - you're already running at 3200mhz. Whether it is because you have non-DOCP 3200mhz sticks or because DOCP is actually on. Either way, from my understanding, you're probably solid there as is.

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Hardware / Re: Ryzen 5995XW Build & some issues
« on: 2023-10-31, 11:13:17 »
@shortcirkuit huh interesting, and if you bring up the Task Manager in Windows, what RAM speed is it reporting there?

@Jontyking happy to help! If you do take the plunge I hope you'll enjoy it!

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Hardware / Re: Ryzen 5995XW Build & some issues
« on: 2023-10-30, 11:54:46 »
Soooo obviously I can't officially condone what is "technically" an overclock, if however you want to turn on DOCP for your memory the how-to is right here:
https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1049534/

Do it at your own risk of course and read the warranty disclaimers if any.

My personal experience, and understanding, is that pretty much everyone uses it including the manufacturers themselves. So do I :) Not that I have noticed a difference in it being off either, lol.

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Hardware / Re: Ryzen 5995XW Build & some issues
« on: 2023-10-30, 11:31:26 »
hey guys - i think i ran 17th.

The pc is a monster.  Although the new TR are coming out in november i think. 

@Nejc - what does the DOCP mode to to the memory?

So same result basically, glad to see my own score validated by another 5995wx owner lol. Thank you!

DOCP is basically AMD's equivalent to Intel's XMP. Modern memory modules (not server ones though) are designed to run at higher than JEDEC standard speeds. So if you enable DOCP / XMP your memory will run higher than what the standard says it should and so typically that means you go from 2667mhz to 3200mhz or 3600mhz depending on how your particular memory was designed to run at with DOCP. Timings on the memory modules and operating voltages are also affected.

From my understanding this is technically speaking still an overclock because the Infinity Fabric runs faster than the absolute baseline but is extremely common to a point where AMD and Intel do it themselves too.

Also, and take this as anecdotal evidence at best but from what I recall on my Zen 2 3970x going from 2667mhz to 3200mhz really didn't make a difference in anything including the benchmark scores.

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Hardware / Re: Ryzen 5995XW Build & some issues
« on: 2023-10-30, 10:53:51 »
Howdy Jontyking! If it helps knowing, my entry is number 14 on that link you sent in and its on an non-overclocked ASUS WRX80 Sage I platform. I do run the memory in DOCP mode at 3200mhz.

Personally I've been super pleased with it although yes, it was also super duper expensive.

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[Max] Daily Builds / Re: Tiles playground
« on: 2023-10-25, 20:27:42 »
And a doodle from me as well, probably in contention for the weirdest camera angle of the year 2023.

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What Tom said plus Trello just got updated a bit as well https://trello.com/b/dgI8vjDb/corona-tentative-road-map-cinema-4d :)

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Indeed, I guess we needed Intel for AMD to do something :)

Maybe just to clarify my post there, TR5-SP6 is the socket for both PRO and HEDT parts. TRX50 is the chipset for HEDT and WRX90 is the chipset for PRO.
PRO TRs do work with TRX50 motherboards.

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So... New Threadrippers just got officially announced.

A couple of random links to videos and articles:
AMD promo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF6QbE9rFkM
Level1Tech - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ll6bXzlHvU&t=472s
Gamers Nexus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUqWE9HJ83I&t=31s
Paul's Hardware - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgUee00qXIY

If I may offer a TLDR version...

There are now PRO and Non-PRO (aka HEDT) Threadrippers.

PRO versions have more PCI-E lanes and go up to 96 cores / 192 threads.
Non-PRO have fewer PCI.E lanes and go up to 64 cores / 128 threads.

There are two platforms again. sTRX5 for HEDTs and WRX90 for PROs.
One thing to note here is that sTRX5 can host PRO CPUs as well as HEDT ones although PRO CPUs obviously won't be able to utilize all the lanes and such.

Pricing wise the HEDT parts all have prices to them already, there is no word on the PRO stuff though.
In particular the 24 core part seems quite well priced compared to even the venerable 3960x from the Zen 2 generation. The 64 core HEDT part is also cheaper than the current 5995wx 64 core. Obviously you are still paying a premium for more cores and something like the 7950x is still the performance / budget option where you don't over pay for extra cores - much like the Intel 13900k. Still, it could have been worse?

Also, Intel is planning a Sapphire Rapids WS refresh. While a core count increase isn't expected (given the u-arch) these could be a nice alternative to AMD in the lower / mid segment of these HEDT and WS CPUs. Top end, aka 64 and 96 core performance is another thing though.

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Hardware / Re: Render Farm Build
« on: 2023-10-10, 13:54:38 »
That is quite an interesting list you've got there, thank you for sharing it! What a cool way to go about things :)

I haven't looked at it in depth but I do think it might be worthwhile to check whether 7950x oriented builds could be of help to you here as well. The 7950x CPUs do really well from a price / performance POV imho and could slot in there rather nicely.

I'm just thinking out loud here but a 7950x build would probably cost you around 1800€-2500€ and I'd expect the two of them to perform kinda sorta close to a 5995wx to make it all viable. Again, just thinking out loud.

That said one thing I noticed on my end here when I was setting up my own little render farm is that physical space eventually becomes a bit of a limiting factor - obviously it depends on the amount of room you have in your office but I'm currently very much mindful of that here :)

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